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#976
General Discussion / Re: Need Some Advise
June 17, 2017, 10:58:31 PM
Thanks John,

I thought I might be missing something.  A picture of the center hinge mounting would be beneficial to get a clear understanding of how the hinges sit and how they are recessed.  If possible a picture of the bottom of the hinge pillar would be nice also.  There should be a metal 'L' bracket holding the bottom of the hinge pillar in place. 

All this begs the question.., are the rear doors bolted through the wood or did they use wood screws.  I can accommodate either or.  Through bolts sound a lot stronger.

Many Thanks for all your help,  Chet...
#977
General Discussion / Need Some Advise
June 16, 2017, 10:15:52 AM
After removing the wood which the previous owner installed I am puzzled about how the front door hinges attach to the car.  Below is a picture of the passenger side area before removing the wood.  Besides the metal brackets there is a steel face piece that I believe goes on over the hinges but maybe this is incorrect.


Here is a picture of the passenger side hinge slots with the wood removed.  It appears that the frame was cut with a hack saw and the previous owner flattened the flange in the hinge area. Maybe because the doors wouldn't align properly.

Can someone please advise or provide pictures of an unmolested hinge mount.


Many Thanks in advance...
#978
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
June 12, 2017, 08:29:54 PM
The Cowl Frame Assembly

With the rear frame section completed, I moved my attention to the Cowl Assembly.  Once this section is completed I will be able to hang my doors and position the center door column supports.   Once all this work is completed I will be able to start work on the roof members.

I started by striping the Cowl down to the frame pieces or in my case what's left of the original frame.  I removed the dash and the upper window metal which included the metal front door hinge pillars and windshield.  I also removed all the component parts from the dash.

The picture below is a view of the back side of my dash.  I believe the blue paint is the original body color of my car.  So I am assuming that the area of the dash behind the front windshield was painted the same as the Plymouth body color.



It appears that the Cowl consists of three wood members.  The center dash and windshield support and the left and right side front door hinge pillars.



The only original wood left was the center windshield support.  I will be able to use this piece by joining new wood to the left and right sides.  I will be able to use the metal hinge plates to fabricate the wood hinge pillars.  So the cowl is basically three wood members joined together with the rigid metal supports.  The good news is, I have all the original metal supports.

I would be interested in any pictures of this area showing the wood members, the hinge pillar, and the windshield.


Thanks,  Chet...  PS.. I have the lift assembly for the front windshield.


#979
Thanks Frank, I am sure Dave will keep us in the loop.
#980
General Discussion / Re: 1928 engine rebuild help
June 11, 2017, 11:55:26 PM
Quote from: Articifer Tom on June 11, 2017, 03:01:50 PM
The  DBC web site has a copy of the DYKES Auto Manual on line in there public  info section . This would probably have the info . keep us posted .

Here is a link to download this 900+ page pdf file (copyright 1920):

http://www.dodgebrothersclub.org/Dykes_Automobile_and_Gasoline_Engine_En.pdf
#981
Hi Frank,

If you are removing your windshield I would be interested of any pictures of the body and framing that you might uncover in this task.  I am in the process of trying to figure out how the wood structure supports the front cowl. 

Tks.
#982
General Discussion / Re: 1928 engine rebuild help
June 10, 2017, 11:26:34 AM
Hi Joe & welcome to this forum.

As I stated in an email I am not familiar with the Maxwell Q engine.  I would think that as far as a rear seal is concerned.  If there was one this item may not be packaged in the engine kit and it might need to be ordered separately.  I checked the master parts list and did not find a reference to a rear bearing oil seal however I did find a reference to this part for the model U through PD.  <Group 9D page 122>

I hope someone else will be able to be more help.

Chet...
#983
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
June 03, 2017, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: racertb on June 02, 2017, 05:21:46 PM
Chet - this looks great...I checked out the link too...nice work.

Thanks Ted,

I hope you are enjoying your cars, the weather here finally hit a homerun today.  Melissa & I took the 48 out for a ride and wound up at a local car show.  We checked out the cars, had some lunch, and than continued on our drive.  Unfortunately after about 3 hours at a car show I start to get antsy so back on the road.  We did about 120 miles and ended up in an outdoor restaurant on the water near the beach.  A good day by all standards.
#984
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
June 02, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Rear Window Frame & Upper Cross Member

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/06022017.htm

#985
You know Dave I have to make every single piece of that same roof and I have no original wood to go by, nothing but pictures.  Do you have any pictures of the interior front & rear without the headliner in place.

If you were up to it I might have to make a trip out your way to do a little research.  It might be beneficial to both of us.
#986
General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
May 25, 2017, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: frankp on May 24, 2017, 07:33:48 PM
Nice Chet!  Just remember this is not a high falutin Chrysler!

LOL.., Don't worry Frank we are a long way away from high anything.  :)
#987
General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
May 23, 2017, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: racertb on May 22, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
Looks good!  Would like to see finished wheel and wonder how much stain it will take.  If you recall, my wheel is painted black...not sure if correct or not.

Ted

Hi Ted,

I'm pretty sure that black was the color of the steering wheel.  I had some Bombay Mahogany Stain & Polyurethane lying around the garage so I used it just to see how it would look.  I can always sand and paint over the stain.  Below are the results.  The flash makes it appear lighter in regular dull light it looks almost black.  I had a black steering wheel cover that I will most likely replace.

I'm just glad it's in one piece and usable.   200% better than it was with the proper amount of distress for an 80 year old.



#988
General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
May 19, 2017, 05:41:25 PM
John,

The Elmer's "Damaged Wood" repair system was awesome !! Once the two part putty was mixed together it worked like plumber's putty and stayed soft for quite awhile.  The directions say 1 hour.  You get a lot of putty for the money and I think I only used 15% to repair my badly damaged steering wheel.  The color of the dried epoxy is yellow pine.

Below are the results.  I will try a stain on the wheel first. to see how it looks.  It sanded as smooth as a baby's butt.



#989
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
May 19, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Rusty on May 18, 2017, 11:16:03 PM
It sure looks that way.  Was the inside body metal painted or just primed?  Could the interior be painted black primer? Everything was painted, wood and metal.  My car has a new interior but untouched mechanics.

Rusty,

The untouched rear internal section of my car's metal skin was rusted.  I would assume that when manufactured something was painted on the metal to help protect it from rust.  Below is a picture before I started my work.



PS... I didn't worry about matching colors of paint and stain.  Like John said.., nobody will ever see the work I am doing to the wood framing once the interior is reinstalled.  I am however trying to duplicate the framing as close as possible to the original, without the assistance of the original technical drawings.
#990
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
May 18, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: Rusty on May 15, 2017, 01:01:24 AM
Was the orginial wood stained?

Rusty,

Since you first asked this question I have been thinking more on the subject.  I started today working on the rear window frame pieces and kept thinking about your question.  I believe the internal wood frame members were originally stained with a dark to black stain or light flat paint.  See pictures below to corroborate what I just stated.  These upper rear window frame pieces were original to the car.  The color of the wood facing the metal skins is the same as the wood facing the interior of the car.



The inside joint shows lighter wood than the exterior surface and on the piece to the right the original color of my car which was Meridian Blue.



I don't think it was age that colored the wood.  I think it was originally painted or stained.