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#796
General Discussion / Re: Renovate wooden wheels
April 21, 2018, 11:08:52 PM
To get an idea how artillery wheels were made review the repair info on Calimers Wheel Shop

http://www.calimerswheelshop.com/

Originally the wheels were made of kiln dried hickory.  As Frank stated the spokes were milled and assembled into place, then the center hole cut, the steel hubs were press fitted into place, and then the wood was allowed to absorb moisture to further swell and tighten.  (Extremely Strong Wheel - Artillery Grade)

If you can easily remove the spokes your wheels should probably be rebuilt.  As Frank said, if you do take them apart make sure you number the spokes so as to install them in the exact same position relative to the felloe that they were removed from. 

My two cents,  Chet...
#797
Quote from: 29UJohn on April 21, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
This car is a fantastic find!

Note also the pinstripe details on the front and back.

You're Right.., I really need to pay better attention to the details.  I believe the color is the same as what I have found on my wood remnants and dash. The pin striping is really a nice touch. Do you suppose it was hand painted?
#798
Thank you all, very interesting photos.  Very very helpful.
#799
General Discussion / Re: Renovate wooden wheels
April 16, 2018, 06:59:28 PM

John,

Are you in need of cosmetic renovation or do you need to have the wood spokes replaced. 

Chet...
#800
Welcome to the forum,

Nice find.  I am sure others will chime in with additional info.

A few responses to some of your questions:


  • Radiator cap is available as a reproduction ( in the $300USD range )
  • Headlight lens - Yours look OK in the picture there are bulbs in the buckets not sealed beams.
  • The 2 levers on the horn are broke, what do they do - (1) Headlight/Park light switch (2) Throttle control
  • Is there a starting procedure manual? - There is a Plymouth Instruction Book for 1929 - Copies are available on ebay.  You can also check the Tech Section of this website
  • What do all the buttons/levers on the floor do? - Not sure what you are referring to but Here goes:  Clutch, Brake, Accelerator, Starter Switch, Gear Shift, Parking brake.  I believe that's it unless you have something else installed ??

Welcome to the forum, I think you will find the folks here very knowledgeable.

#801
General Discussion / 1929 Weatherstrip - Questions
April 15, 2018, 11:12:06 AM
Question:

  • Was there weather stripping around the door frames.  If so, anyone have any pictures ?
  • Also interested in how the hinge pillars are weather sealed ?   
  • Was there a metal rear window frame, I don't believe I have one.
After the plating snafu I may be asking many more...

Pictures of original interior appreciated. 

Chet...
#802
General Discussion / Re: 30-U rod bolts
April 13, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: chetbrz on April 05, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
Russ, FYI:


From J&M Machine:

Hello Chester:
    The rod bolts we received for your engine won't work as he left off one dimension when I ordered them.
The correct one is ARP AR343-1 this bolt is right one fits Studebaker.
John

J&M Verified that ARP AR343-1 is the correct rod bolt for our engines.
#803
Well, I called the plater to ask if he got to this job yet.., he told me he was just about to call me that the parts were done.

So I probably spent more that 2K to chrome parts that were suppose to be painted black.  :(   I have had this car for almost 12 years and I didn't notice that this was not the case since the parts on my car were chrome when I bought it.   It look nice so I never suspected anything different.

Ted when I looked at your car I never made the connection.

The next guy that does this car 50 years from now can paint these parts.  Very Frustrated !!
#804
Please comment on picture below:

#805
Wow, the support assembly is painted black.  I spent a lot of money having them plated.  Oh well...

They were plated already so I just assumed that they should be plated.  Knowledge is sad a day late and a dollar over spent.

:(
#806
General Discussion / Re: Paint Chips for 28/29
April 12, 2018, 07:25:21 PM
Great Link !!!
#807
Quote from: frankp on April 12, 2018, 04:24:22 PM
Chet,  some clarification::

Outside metal I left natural metal, aluminium, are hub caps and running board trim.  Tail lamp was all chrome.  Outer bumper are black, but I have seen them in chrome.


Frank,

Just for clarification.  You state the tail lamp was all chrome does this also include the bracket arm.  Mine is black.

Also, on the bumper I found this note in the judging guide:

"Bumper: 1928 had double chrome bars with two grooves painted black; 1929 had double chrome bars.
The PD (1933) and PE(1934) front had a dip in the center."

I sent mine in for chrome including the rear ?  The judging guide doesn't say anything about black for 29U
We are talking about the item circled in the picture below:



I thought the 28Q had a single bar in the center of the bumper.



Very confused again,  Chet...
#808

The can you found is a great match.  Thanks again,  Chet...
#809
General Discussion / Paint Chips for 28/29
April 12, 2018, 03:34:11 PM
Anyone have a paint code or chip for Marquette Blue and Marine Blue ?
#810
I was told by POC that the exterior Bright work was chrome this includes the headlamps for the 28 & 29.  The 30U, PA, & PC headlamps were painted. 

The interior Bright work was nickel.

This is all I found for wheels:

Wood wheels should be painted. Wire and disc wheels were optional. Hubcaps embossed with an ornate "P", but the Q's were octagonal on the outer edge while the U's were mushroom-shaped, with the octagon behind the head.

Early 1930U cars were fitted with the old style "P" hubcaps, while later cars got the new style that featured the word "Plymouth" inside a raised parallelogram design. Wood wheel equipped cars saw a change from the de-mountable type rims. Wire wheel equipped vehicles saw 2 changes - cars up to serial number 1518228 utilized a 5 lug bolt wheel, while most cars after that to car 1558001 used a 6 lug bolt pattern - cars built after 1558001 returned once again to a 5 bolt wheel pattern.

Frank,  What interior items did you find out were chrome ?

Also.., It was noted when John was discussing hub caps that the correct caps for 29-30 were mushroom-shaped, with the octagon behind the head.  Anyone know about the mushroom-shaped, without the octagon behind the head