I removed one of the old Allstate tires from its split rim. Quite a job. The tire was petrified and I had to cut it with a jig saw in order to pry it off the split rim. So much for complaining. My problem is that the split rim opened fine but doesn't want to reclose.
(http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/images2/Wheels02.jpg)
I was thinking of drilling a hole to install a pin ?? Any tricks I am missing ?
(http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/images2/Wheels03.jpg)
I didn't want to hammer the post in fear that it might break the mounting rivet.
Any Suggestions.
All looks good . Once in tire will not snap open . On my spare I lock with tie wire as you show . Was afraid some one at car show would mess with . I had one violently open when bouncing to seat new tire . It blew tube when it can out . (//)
Did you use a rim spreader? If you use a rim spreader it should seat the two ends and the lock will close with little or no force required. Once the rim is on the wheel it can't open but it can if you horse it around off the wheel. I'd drill and use a small split pin if you are concerned. It doesn't need much to keep it closed.
Quote from: Russ T. Fender on October 31, 2021, 04:24:35 PM
Did you use a rim spreader? If you use a rim spreader it should seat the two ends and the lock will close with little or no force required. Once the rim is on the wheel it can't open but it can if you horse it around off the wheel. I'd drill and use a small split pin if you are concerned. It doesn't need much to keep it closed.
The lock closes no problem it just doesn't stay closed. It pops right open.
I agree. I will drill it for a small pin. :). Many thanks
Well I spent another day screwing with these 19" 30u wood wheels. I removed another tire which was a battle. Those All State ( 6.00-19 6 Ply ) tires after some 50+ years are hard as a rock. I removed the air valve to release the air and the tires still would not flex. It was like they were filled with cement. OK I'm exaggerating a bit.., but still very close to reality. I had to cut the tire to get a little bit of play to separate the split rim even with using the Atlas tire tool. Unfortunately the Kelsey latch is broken on this rim. I guess I could weld it back in place.
(http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/images2/Wheels04.jpg)
Anyway:
To complete this project I would need:
Purchase 5 new tires and tubes ( 4 for the car and 1 spare ) Expensive ?
Find at least one 19" split rim for the spare tire maybe 2 ? Almost impossible
Have to realign all 4 brake drums and should install new brake pads on the rear to match the front. Yikes !
And I would have the wrong wheels for my car..., the good news is, they would be pristine. Humm. !
or:
Fix the one 20" wheel.
I think I am going to switch gears and go down another road. Sounds like fixing the one wheel and postponing all the other work is probably best at the moment.
Any thoughts, Chet...
I would fix the one wheel and be done with it if your original rims are in decent shape. I hate split rims as most of them are out of round and difficult to balance and wouldn't go to all that expense to resurrect wheels that are wrong for your car.
Well I gave it one more try. I installed the new drum on the old wheel and everything seemed OK. I took it out for a drive today and clocked 25 miles. The brake problem was fixed and I thought that was it . Pulling the car into the garage I could hear the passenger side wheel clicking. I jacked the car up and the wheel had to much side to side play. At first I thought I had a loose wheeling bearing nut but it was the wood spokes. This has been an ongoing problem with this wheel.
Anyway I will take the wheel to be respoked but I still might need to move my car so I installed the 19" wheel with the 6.00-19 6 Ply tire. This wheel with that one good tire is two inches larger in diameter then my stock 20" wheels with the 4.75/500 20" tires. see below:
(http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/images2/Wheels05.jpg)
Oh well, Chet...
PS.., The wife loves the wood wheel look.
Chet, how bad are the spokes? I had a left rear wheel that was clicking for a while and fixed it a while ago and it's been solid since. Keeping my fingers crossed, but it's been nice and quiet. Are you able to do this yourself?
Ted
Ted,
I have been messing with this wheel for awhile now. It's time to get it fixed. Just to far gone. To much lateral movement for a front wheel.
I wouldn't fool with a bad wheel, especially a front wheel. There are plenty of things you can do to tighten a wood spoke wheel but they are all temporary. I think you are making the right decision. Who are you going to use for the job?
Quote from: Russ T. Fender on November 09, 2021, 09:05:40 AM
I wouldn't fool with a bad wheel, especially a front wheel. There are plenty of things you can do to tighten a wood spoke wheel but they are all temporary. I think you are making the right decision. Who are you going to use for the job?
Calimer's Wheel Shop.., I am close enough to drive up there and drop the wheel off. 3 hours
He does great work. Hopefully he is not too backed up. There were times when he was almost a year behind.
He said a month or two. Before spring time is ok by me.
Fingers crossed. The sooner the better.
I will need to check the size of my original wheels (are they all 19"?), but I do have 4 of them available if you or anyone needs them. Shipping from CA will not be cheap, as they are large and quite heavy, but I'll help as I can - I'm not looking to cash in here, just to help someone's cause. Prior to the purchase of my car, the one wheel shown (note, photos is ~2 years old) was "restored", though by whom I don't know. The other 3 are unrestored, and the wood is completed but are quite "weathered". To insure a more speed reply, send me notes directly at x15builder@hotmail.com. Take care all.
Quote from: chetbrz on November 09, 2021, 01:30:18 PMHe said a month or two. Before spring time is ok by me.
Fingers crossed. The sooner the better.
Well I guess getting this one wheel respoked sooner isn't happening. I dropped the wheel off in November 2021 and I am still waiting. Hopefully soon.., at least before summer. I guess I'll give him a call next week. :(
Don't wait to call him. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. He does great work but he's awfully slow and a little push can't hurt.
Quote from: Russ T. Fender on March 26, 2022, 11:33:51 AMDon't wait to call him. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. He does great work but he's awfully slow and a little push can't hurt.
Good advice. I gave him a call today, hopefully we can move this along. We will see. :)
Well, I finally got my front wheel back from Bill Calimer yesterday. It took 5 months but as stated previously the work result is outstanding. Now to paint it and reinstall the wheel.
Beautiful!
Quote from: ski on April 28, 2022, 03:37:31 PMBeautiful!
Hi Ski
Nice to hear from you. What have you been up to these days. How is your car doing? Hopefully everything is going well.
Chet...
Hi Chet, My car is safely tucked away in the garage for now while I've been dealing with other projects and that thing called life. I've been spending half my time back east in Mass. where I'm building a house and the other half in Calif. Eventually I'll bring my '29 and a couple other cars back east where I have more room to get things done. I still check in every day to see what all you guys are up to. Lately I've been playing with early Dodge and Chrysler hemi engines. Hope all is well with you and yours Chet.
ski
Quote from: ski on April 29, 2022, 10:52:46 AMHi Chet, My car is safely tucked away in the garage for now while I've been dealing with other projects and that thing called life. I've been spending half my time back east in Mass. where I'm building a house and the other half in Calif. Eventually I'll bring my '29 and a couple other cars back east where I have more room to get things done. I still check in every day to see what all you guys are up to. Lately I've been playing with early Dodge and Chrysler hemi engines. Hope all is well with you and yours Chet.
ski
Wow you're a busy guy. "...playing with early Dodge and Chrysler hemi engines..." that's a far cry from life in the slow lane with a 29ply. You seem to have projects on both sides of the US, I wish you much success. Great hearing from you. Things on my end are going great, just getting older.
BTW - This forum has been running for the last 15 years and you have been there since that first year. :)
Tks, Keep in touch, Chet...
New spokes look great! Keep you safe for many a year. frankp