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Started by chetbrz, January 06, 2019, 09:32:05 AM

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chetbrz

My car has seen many repairs and restoration attempts over its long history.  So I am always questioning whether items or construction was original, true to original, or not even close.  Since I have finished the wood framing I have been slowly working on the body work in preparation for the paint shop.  My driver's side front fender had a lot of small holes left from poor body filler repairs.  Metal patches need to be welded to the underside of the fender.  Since I am not an expert welder I decided to remove the fender rather then trying to weld thin steel against gravity. 



Here is my Question:

There are 5 screws holding the fender to the car frame.  Is the picture below representative of how the fender was originally attached or were these screws carriage bolts ?  I had to drill one of these out and the screw and eyelet were brass ?  The square back bolts appear to be original. Does this look and sound correct ??

See picture below of what I have on my car.



Tks Chet...
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abradney

I'm pretty sure someone sent me a picture at one point and I noticed carriage bolts holding the fenders to to the frame, the 'square' cut seems to confirm this.  When I remount my fenders I will be using carriage bolts, I seem to remember the bolts were chrome too, and not body color matched.

chetbrz

Quote from: abradney on January 06, 2019, 11:23:38 AM
I'm pretty sure someone sent me a picture at one point and I noticed carriage bolts holding the fenders to to the frame, the 'square' cut seems to confirm this.  When I remount my fenders I will be using carriage bolts, I seem to remember the bolts were chrome too, and not body color matched.

FYI the fender holes were not squared but elongated round for minor adjustment.  The nuts on the screws were old fashion square nuts with star and flat washer.
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Russ T. Fender

For what it's worth, my 30-U fenders are mounted with the slotted screws you show in your picture and the nuts are square.  No carriage bolts.

chetbrz

Quote from: Russ T. Fender on January 06, 2019, 08:23:09 PM
For what it's worth, my 30-U fenders are mounted with the slotted screws you show in your picture and the nuts are square.  No carriage bolts.

I think these are original.., hopefully we will get a few more responses to confirm the same.   Thanks
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frankp

Chet, you have original slotted bolt and washer.  They were plated in the beginning and I used chrome.  frank
frank p

chetbrz

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Thanks Frank, that explains both posts and the original material used. 
Were they chrome or nickel.  Maybe I can find this hardware in stainless steel.  Just a thought.

What about the hardware for the sheet metal under the radiator.  Were they plated also?

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frankp

I used chrome since they are exterior parts.  You might try Restoration Specialties & Supply.  If not in their catalog, call them.
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chetbrz

What about the hardware holding the Sheetmetal below the radiator.  3 Carriage bolts.  Left, Right, and center
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racertb

Chet, all of mine have the carriage bolt style heads...looking at them underneath, there are nuts and washers.  I don't believe this is original, but not sure.

chetbrz

Quote from: racertb on January 08, 2019, 04:12:07 PM
Chet, all of mine have the carriage bolt style heads...looking at them underneath, there are nuts and washers.  I don't believe this is original, but not sure.

Are you talking about the carriage bolts below the radiator holding the sheet metal.  I believe these are original, just looking for verification.   Originally painted or plated ?
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racertb

Yes, the bolts below the radiator as well as the bolts that attach the fenders.

chetbrz

Quote from: racertb on January 08, 2019, 06:49:15 PM
Yes, the bolts below the radiator as well as the bolts that attach the fenders.

Thanks Ted, 
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racertb

Forgot to mention that mine are painted all black (like the fenders, etc.), probably done when car restored in the '80's.

frankp

frank p