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#121
General Discussion / Some dimensional help needed.
February 10, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
I have been working on a wood templet from which I will cut my new sill plates.  I have completed the template and I am now looking to confirm my work before cutting the hardwood for the Sills.  Since the Sill member is bolted to the frame in 7 places on both sides I am very confident that my measurements are dead on accurate.  As a quick check I was wondering if someone with a 29U 4 Door sedan could provide the following rear body section width measurement.

I am looking for a ballpark measurement as a check:  From the right bottom edge of the rear door support member steel cap, at the floor to the left side.  See pictures for clarity.  Both rear doors would have to be open so you can measure from outside edge to outside edge.

 

Many Thanks in Advance,  Chet...
#122
General Discussion / Some dimensional help needed.
January 26, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
Since nothing of my floor was original I am trying to piece together what was probably there.  The next couple of questions would be a big help.

Question 1:

How much gap is there between the rear body section and the gas tank bracket. 
Measured between the body and the top of the support bracket.



Question 2:  See picture..



Question 3:  It appears that the front section is equidistant from the end of the frame to the firewall.  My question is:  How much gap if any is between the firewall and the front fender assembly.  See picture below.



Many thanks in advance,  Chet...



#123
General Discussion / Need Some Help
January 17, 2017, 12:51:55 PM
I need some dimensions from a 29U 4 door owner. 

My car is back on the ground after the front end work.  The car is now sitting square left to right which I feel was a major accomplishment for my old car.  However I think the car sits to high in the back and I would like to compare some average measurements from another 29U 4Door sitting on a reasonable level road surface or garage floor.

First:  The height of the Front Bumper assembly Bolt (center of Bolt to Ground)



Second:  The height of the Rear Bumper assembly Bolt (center of Bolt to Ground)
Third:     The distance between the rear shackle pins from center to center.



Many Thanks,  Chet...

#124
General Discussion / Forum Profile
January 09, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
A member asked that the Forum Default should show the most recent post on top.  This feature is settable in you personal profile settings:

Modify Profile/Look and Layout/ Check Box – Show most recent post at the top. 


I reset the forum Default for all users to show most recent post on top.  I believe you can still go in and change this if you prefer the opposite. 

Please let me know if there are any issues with this change.  Chet...
#125
General Discussion / Happy Holidays
December 23, 2016, 10:58:31 AM

To All.
&
To all a Happy New Year.
#126
General Discussion / Another Part Question
December 07, 2016, 05:43:36 PM
Concerning the radiator surround shroud.., I know the front is chromed but what about the square under the radiator cap.  Is this painted the body color or is it suppose to be chrome also?  My current one is painted the same as the car color.  I found a good one to have re-chromed and was just checking concerning the top square which is under the Cap.  Going to the platter next week.

Does this make sense to anyone or do I need to post a picture ?

Chet...
#127
General Discussion / Part Identification Question
November 27, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
My car did not have any of the original running boards or molding parts. 

Are the running board moldings pictured below correct for a 1929 Plymouth.  These are reproductions.

#128
General Discussion / 29 Build Thread
October 26, 2016, 05:42:05 PM
Well I have put the Title Problem behind me and have now started on the real work.  The Car.

The main issue I have with this car is the rotting internal wood structure and then everything else.  The roof of the car is one slab of plywood so no real body integrity.  My plan is to repair or reframe this car as close to original construction as humanly possible and as well as my carpentry & mechanical skills will allow.  I guess my first step is to get this car on a level plane and assess the workload.

The good news is that my garage floor is in excellent shape for the task at hand.  I jacked the frame up on four identical jack stands.  Even though the floor is perfectly level I did have to raise the back jack stands up one additional notch to get the car on a level plane ?  I am not sure if this is a problem but I think not.  Any comments would be appreciated. 





The body skins are horribly aligned. As an example.., Sitting on the jack stands my driver side door doesn't want to close for a number of reasons including the center post position.  I will be removing all the interior covering to reveal what's left of the original frame.  Will post pictures as the work progresses.

See Below the tip of the iceberg:








#129
General Discussion / Automobile Blue Book, Vol 3 1921
September 18, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
The standard road guide of America, Established 1901

I found this book in an antique store.  It is 965+ pages of turn by turn instructions for traveling routes in NJ, PA, MD, DEL,VA, WVA, DC, & surrounding areas including NY City, and the Catskill area.  I have never seen a book like this before.  It's a great look at the road system in 1921.  I think it would be great fun to research one of these routes that are detailed more by land marks then road names.   Very hard to follow trolley tracks that no longer exist or turn at a business that probably hasn't been around for the past 90 years.   What a great road trip to travel one of these listed routes and compare the way things have changed and marvel at the things that have not.   Unbelievable amount of information pointing out land marks and points of interest including abstracts of state motor vehicle laws for the Automobilists.  For instance; you needed a license to drive in NYC but not the rest of the state, the license fee was $2.00 with a renewal cost of a dollar in 1921.

Anyone else run across a book like this.  In 1921 there were 10 volumes covering the entire continental US.  Each Vol was priced at $4.00 each.  There was also a 'T' vol for long Distance Tours, city to city, coast to coast which was priced at $5.00.  My assumption is that these books were updated for each year.  Need to figure out when they stopped printing them.  Of course the internet knows all so it's time to search the WWW...

UPDATE:

The Official Automobile Blue Book, 1901–1929: Precursor to the American Road Map
John T. Bauer

Abstract

Navigating by automobile at the dawn of the twentieth century was difficult because maps appropriate for this new mode of transportation were scarce. An early solution to this problem was the route guide. Listing turn-by-turn directions between various cities, route guides helped early motorists navigate a network of unmarked, local roads. This paper focuses exclusively on the Official Automobile Blue Book, the earliest and most popular of the route guides. It contends that the Blue Book series was a precursor to the American road map because the volumes served two important functions of road maps and did so before road mapping matured into a full-fledged cartographic business. The Blue Book commercialized automobile touring and provided directional information, helping motorists navigate. Twelve Blue Book volumes, covering 1901 to 1929, form the primary sources for this research. After examining the series' use, content, and history, the paper places the Official Automobile Blue Book within the larger context of the history of road mapping.

Cheers Chet...
#130
General Discussion / Restoration Begins
September 15, 2016, 05:38:23 PM
Well I am finally starting my 29 restoration.  The car has been sitting for a couple of years.  Since we retired to Delaware I still haven't titled the car because I have to bring it down to the Motor Vehicles to have it physically inspected.  I guess they need to see it at least once, to verify that it exists.  Anyway I would need to trailer it down and since my car trailer needs to go in for an inspection I will take the 29 along and get it titled and registered.

Of course there is always a problem.  I hope to change the Title info to reflect the proper year.  The car was registered as a 1928 Model U Plymouth under the Body Number.  I will not try to change the VIN Number but will try to change the date to reflect the actual correct year.  1929 Model U.  Wish me luck.  How do I explain to the DMV that the car was incorrectly titled in Florida where I purchased it.  I correct the Q to U when I titled it in VA.  So I hope to correct the Year next week.  I had this plate made up for the car to reflect the correct INFO for the DMV and at the same time reflect the proper Fedco Number.  The cost was $42.00.



After at least 3 years of inactivity the old girl fired up without any issues.  My car needs a lot of work to bring her back to a reasonable example of an original 1929 Plymouth.  I plan to keep the old interior but redo the internal wooden frame, roof, and floor and everything else that was incorrectly repaired.  The old girl has been molested by many well intentioned owners but it's time to try and get her back to a reasonable facsimile of original condition and save as much of the original patina as possible.   I am not looking to create a factory fresh car but a correct car that shows its 80 years of existence.  Once we jump through the DMV hoop then on to a more interesting agenda. 



Wish me luck I'll keep you guys posted on my progress in this thread.
#131
General Discussion / Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
December 24, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
Just wishing you all
Seasons Greetings & Happy Holidays !!!



Chet...
#132
General Discussion / Quiet Board
August 01, 2015, 08:42:00 AM

Everything must be working fine.  For me the cover is still on the 29.  I have been too busy since our move to work on the old car.  Actually only had the 48 out a couple of times this summer.  Picked up a boat last summer and it has added to my maintenance project list.  Still haven't been out fishing yet just learning the waters.  Well the good news is my younger daughter and her boy friend came for a visit so we are going out on the boat this afternoon.  Too hot a day for the old cars.  Really like the fall weather for a long drive.

Well that's my story, I hope this finds everyone well.

Chet...
#133
Its almost time to pull the cover off the old girl and get to those repairs we've been planning.  Also working on the antique cars would be a good idea.  Hopefully I can start the restoration to my 29 after I sell my house in Virginia.  I have been getting the last 17 years of honey-do's done before the real estate guy comes and plants the sign.  Started last July and spent the summer working on the outside and the winter working on the inside.  The real estate broker will be by this week to get the show on the road.  Ya-hoo !!!  Can't hardly recognize the old place somebody will be getting a better house than the one I was living in.

In retrospect,  getting around to something isn't the same as actually doing it.  :)

Welcome to Spring...   Chet...
#134
General Discussion / Happy Holidays
December 23, 2014, 03:25:50 PM
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah
Happy Holidays,
To All


#135
I found this link on the POC forum.  It is an interesting link to a story published in the Dec 4th & 11th issues of Old Cars Weekly.  The article is about an around the world journey of a 28 Plymouth roadster that a man named Quam recently completed.  Not counting the ocean part, the car was driven over 16,000 miles.

Interesting read for these winter months.

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/editors-picks/around-world-28-plymouth

Any trips planned for the summer months ?

#136
General Discussion / Air & Car Show - OT (off Topic)
October 03, 2014, 06:54:16 AM

Since the board is so quiet here is a link to the Leesburg Air & Car Show which I attended last weekend.  Click on the link below for the picture story.   

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1948p15/photo_gallery/Picture_Stories/LeesburgAirShow2014.htm



Chet...

#137
General Discussion / More on 28/29 Roof Construction
March 10, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
Crazy Dave,

I believe you have a 4 door car and I was wondering if while the roof is exposed you could provide two measurements so that I may calculate the roof slope.

See your picture below.  The two dimensions I would like to verify are:

The thickness of the wood at the windshield.  (Right, Left, and Center)
The thickness of the wood at the door posts.  (Right & Left)

Thanks,  Chet...
#138
General Discussion / @@@ IMPORTANT UPGRADE Notice @@@
February 06, 2014, 09:57:10 AM


Completed  ;D

Please email me if you have any problems,    chetbrz@aol.com



"Good Change" is good,  Chet...
#139
I received an email from a gentleman named Bill Schultz who stated the following:

Hi Chet,

My name is Bill Schultz and I was referred to you by a couple gentlemen on the AACA site.  I am on the Vehicle Selection Committee for the Eyes On Design concours car show held at the Edsel & Eleanor Ford Estate in metro Detroit, and we have a featured class this year which centers on Working class cars of 1928.  This is a very cool group of cars that represent basic cars that average folks would have purchased, versus the other pre war classes which feature more hi end cars.  We are looking for a very very nice '28 Plymouth for this class and I was hoping you could help us locate a nice car, someone willing to come to our area and participate in this neat event.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here is the info on this event:

The Eyes On Design concours car show held at the Edsel & Eleanor Ford Estate can be researched and viewed at www.eyesondesigncarshow.com.  As mentioned, we are in need of a '28 Plymouth for a special class that is going to concentrate on basic working class cars of 1928, originally priced between $500-900.  This is a very cool event and attracts a lot of media attention as well as usually having many of the auto industries top designers and engineers in attendance.  The coolest part for most of the participants in this class is that they are displayed with "like" automobiles rather than be next to a host of huge Packards and Pierce Arrows!  Whoever comes will have a great time at a very scenic and historical site.

LINK:  http://www.eyesondesigncarshow.com/

Bill's contact info:
Bill Schultz  

billybobcat@comcast.net

I DO NOT KNOW HIM PERSONALLY but the event sounds great !  :D

#140
General Discussion / Happy Holidays
December 25, 2013, 02:35:49 PM

Merry Christmas to all !!!

and to all a

Happy New Year !!!