28Q29U Plymouth Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: SteveG on August 20, 2013, 02:58:43 PM

Title: Engine Clean Up
Post by: SteveG on August 20, 2013, 02:58:43 PM
I'm cleaning up the engine and bay on my '28.

Can any tell me the colors of the heads, block, components, firewall, ect.?

A pic would be very helpful but a description would be much appreciated as well.

Thank You
SteveG

Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: chetbrz on August 21, 2013, 08:50:19 AM
Steve,

My 2 cents on the 1928-Q.  I am not an expert but the firewall I would think would be the same color as the body paint.  The engine, transmission, & bell housing would be black and the head is silver.  (Thus the Silver Dome)

For body paint colors try this link:   http://www.ply33.com/Models/Q/

Chet...
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: SteveG on August 21, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Thanks.

That's the direction I'll go in.

SteveG
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: chetbrz on August 21, 2013, 12:46:05 PM
Hi Steve,

I found this ad.

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/SupportPages/images/28_Engine.jpg)

Good Luck,  Chet...
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: Old Man on August 22, 2013, 11:30:04 AM
That's an artist misconception. You were right the 1st time Chet. All over black with silver head and water outlet,cylinder bolt heads included. The saddle on the generator cutout is plain steel,I believe galvanized. The aircleaner is black and carb float bowl is polished brass. The parking brake is black with the latching button nickel plated. The gear shift lever is black and the knob is black material but not painted. I've been told the exhaust manifold is 'gray' and the intake manifold is 'black'. But I dont' know how they got that way.   
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: chetbrz on August 24, 2013, 05:22:42 PM

Thanks for the reinforcement, your explanation is pretty much what I have seen. 

Chet...
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: frankp on August 25, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Steve,

Your firewall is painted black.  "The border... was the junction of the vertical panel to horizontal."  From the Plymouth Owners Club Judging Guide, Design 11 - March, 2000.

Electrical components black and cylinder head silver.  The POC may have this guide on their site.

frank
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: SteveG on August 26, 2013, 12:14:17 PM
Great input. Thanx, Guys.
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: chetbrz on August 26, 2013, 04:19:31 PM

Here is a link to the Judging Guide:

http://www.plymouthbulletin.com/guides/1928_1939.pdf (http://www.plymouthbulletin.com/guides/1928_1939.pdf)


Thanks Frank,  Chet...
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: frankp on August 27, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
You're all very welcome.   Chet, great to have that link!

Maybe one one of these years I'll get my firewall black.  frank
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: chetbrz on August 27, 2013, 11:50:46 AM

Frank, 

I know what you mean. I someday hope to start work on my 29 to get her closer to original.  I would like to redo the car as a Taxi.  I have seen a few factory pictures of a 29 Plymouth Taxi.   Don't know yet.., just thinking out loud.

Chet...
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: frankp on August 28, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
Chet,

Great idea!  You might have seen one version currently for sale on ebay.

A couple of other items.  There is more info from Earl and Jeff Buton in Plymouth Bulletin #289, March - April 2008.  Article is Judging: Engine and Mechanical Categories in Group I Plymouths, (1928 - 1939).

Now, if done correctly, here is picture of "barn find" 29U firewall I saw yesterday.  More on that in separate thread.

frank
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: Old Man on August 28, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
BTW I'm not convinced that Canadian and American Plymouths both had black firewalls. The jury is still out but I think the Windsor body maker did not bother taking the time and money to paint the firewall black. I think Canadian bodies were all body color,firewall included. Not sure yet tho. Need to see some more barn fresh cars.   
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: frankp on August 29, 2013, 03:37:45 PM
There must be an unrestored Canadian out there somewhere.  Looked for a body tag on front passenger side floor, but could not find it.  The original front mat and back "carpet" were history.  My body is Hayes, as I believe were all 4door sedans.

Noted Kingston vacuum tank was black.  This has been discussed before.  Mine is natural and have seen both in restored cars.  I may have to paint mine black, which is probably correct.

frank
Title: Re: Engine Clean Up
Post by: SteveG on October 05, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Thanx for the help. I'll post results after completion.

SteveG