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Messages - jeffrey grare

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General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: January 26, 2017, 01:31:56 AM »
Chet, just checked ebay its listed under   Tips on auto body woodwork by Don Marsh      $18.00   JG

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General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: January 26, 2017, 01:11:24 AM »
Chet, I am in the process of building new main side sills.I purchased tips on auto body woodwork by Don Marsh (ebay) he explains in great detail about the main sills and how to reproduce them.He says to laminate two pieces together to prevent warping. On a car with 1-7/8 sills he says to use a 1" and  3/4" piece and to use white oak as it contains paraffin wax which will repel water.  He also explains how to replace the door woodwork using t-nuts as our cars wood framing was assembled then the sheet metal was secured to the wood.I think hjs literature was listed under Hudson or Essex on ebay.Its only about 17 or 18 pages but worth every penny' good luck J Grare

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Things you are looking for. / Re: 29 or 30 U
« on: July 03, 2016, 04:51:15 PM »
my car was missing the aluminum sills. I assume they get installed over the side sill covers because the fit of the side sill covers over the wood  is  tight. When I disassembled mine it had all original nails still securely in place on the side that was not altered. JG

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General Discussion / 1929 model U distributor housing
« on: June 04, 2016, 09:17:31 PM »
I see on ebay today a new 29 u   CNC machined aircraft aluminum dist. housing listed from Germany $399.00 plus shipping. Looks very well made from photo

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General Discussion / 1929 u sedan crossmember
« on: February 10, 2016, 06:14:58 PM »
One more question (hopefully my last for a while) Is there a cross member (wooden) where the front floorboard meets the angled floorboard (cowl) I cannot tell if the sills were mortised out as there was not much left of the front half of the sills. There was just some 1 x 6 pine screwed to the brackets in the cowl and a piece of plywood  laying on the floor. I would think it wouldn't have to be very big, just enough to keep floor from sagging. Again any input is appreciated thank you      J.Grare

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General Discussion / 1929 u sedan body to frame welt (webbing)
« on: February 07, 2016, 01:22:43 AM »
Is it possible there is only welting material at the mounting points? I see someone on ebay selling 1 1/2 x 2 x1/4" rubber pads with about a 1/2" hole in center. This seems to make sense as there was no residue other than rust on the underside of splash aprons or on the top of the frame rail. Also the sills would clear the rivet heads by about a 1/16" of an inch, and not collect any moisture as there would be a small gap under the sill.   Any input would be appreciated thank you    J.Grare 

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Sandblasted  and painted chassis. I will be making and  putting on new side sills in the near future. does anyone know the correct thickness body to frame welt. All I see for sale is 1/8"in. thick welting, the frame rivet heads are almost a 1/4"thick. Can I double it up or is there a supplier that has 1/4".I read somewhere conveyer belt material can be used. Another option would be to drill recesses for the rivet heads and use the 1/8"welting. one more question-Is there anything between the splash apron and the bottom of the sill?   I only want to do this once any help would be appreciated thank you  J.Grare

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 model u
« on: November 23, 2015, 05:00:27 PM »
thank you for your reply. I set cowl on my plywood side sill template and positioned the  A pillar bracket with what is left of wood pillar inside of cowl.  Looks like the A pillar is only about 1/2 inch thick at bottom so it probably would not add much strength by mortising it, as the bracket is very heavy and will be screwed into 1 3/4 inches of oak. Can you tell if the B or C pillars are? It is hard to tell from what I have left of main sill.   thanks, J.Grare

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 model u
« on: October 09, 2015, 04:50:05 PM »
 I was looking for a nicer set of splash aprons {mine are not in the best shape but are repairable) and front leaf springs (my top leafs are cracked)I would prefer  originals over having new ones made. If you needed model A or T parts you would have hit the mother lode though!

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 model u
« on: October 09, 2015, 01:43:38 AM »
thank you, just got home from Hershey I will use those measurements tomorrow they should get me very close ,with the wood framing I don't think that any two cars were exactly the same. I would think within an 1/8 of an inch should be good.    thanks again jg

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 model u
« on: October 05, 2015, 04:21:21 AM »
frank p  thank you for your reply and photo. am I correct to assume that the 39 1/4 in. measurement was inside to inside of the left and right heavy  steel  A pillar support brackets that are screwed into main side sills   thanks again jg

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 model u
« on: September 24, 2015, 02:03:18 AM »
car is a 1929 model u four door sedan       thanks for your reply  JG

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General Discussion / 1929 model u
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:35:07 PM »
making new sills for model u and need and need the correct width of the cowl at the floor .I measured before removal and seemed to have written down two measurements in notes ( 42 in. and 43 in.) also is the A pillar mortised into the sill or flush,sill is rotted away in that area,that is why I cant get a good measurement.       thanks JG

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Things you are looking for. / Re: 29 or 30 U
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:18:48 PM »
the sill cover(that's what fisher called it(not sure what briggs called it)is the sheet metal that covers the main side sills (46inches long x 2inches high on model u) with a slight curve to match body shape,they are than nailed to wood sills top and bottom.when you open the door that is the metal trim you see on edge of floor.                         thank you for a response JG

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General Discussion / center pillar
« on: April 20, 2015, 03:07:35 AM »
Does anyone have a picture of where center pillar meets the sill.The outter 11/2" edge of the sill is rotted off,I can't tell if pillar went into sill or just butted against it.Also the pillar bracket looks like someone welded a piece on bottom so it extends into sill.Seems like that was done to stiffen up pillar as the sill was patched in with plywood.Should the bracket extend to the top of pillar (t -shaped)and tie into the roof structure? thanks for any input J grare

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