Tks, 

This is all good info so that someday I might be able to undo some of the things that have changed over the past 80 years.

Thank you all,  This is great information.  You don't see many old Plymouths at car shows especially 28,29, & 30.  At least in my immediate local area.

Tks, Chet...

AL and Frank, 

Thanks for the pictures they explain a great deal.  I am missing the bottom wood frame and the pins.  My seat just has a plywood bottom.  One quick question, how thick is the bottom wood frame? 

Ths Chet...

Ian,

That's very interesting that in the Touring Version Holden installed an adjustable seat that converted into a bed.    I wonder if there was something similar on the US built touring cars.   I guess there weren't many no-tell motels around so sleeping in the vehicle was better than sleeping on the road.    Next car show I go to I am going to pay more attention to the way the seats were installed in the late 20's and what niceties were included. 

Gary,

Thanks for the responce.   What you described is the same as my 29 sedan except I don't have the metal piece. Mine has a wood block which is definitely not original. 

Chet...

I was reading a post on another site and this made me curious about the front seat in my 29 Plymouth.  It seems like it is mounted in place and my car didn't have any adjustment mechanism.   Of course it doesn't have original flooring either.  So the question on the table is how was the original front seat in the 28/29 & 30 mounted and were they adjustable to accommodate different size drivers 

Chet...

Ted,

It doesn't seem like it would be a hard piece for a metal shop to fabricate.   All you need is a tracing and a couple of measurements.   I could provide both but I will not be in the same state as my car for another 3 weeks.  Who knows, next month I might stumble across one at Hershey although that might be like winning the lottery.

Good luck,  Chet...

I have so many things going on right now that the 29 may have to wait another year before I can get to her.  I am getting ready to retire and currently involved in a remodeling in our retirement home and need to do work to the current residence so I can put it on the market for sale.  Still working the day job and spent the last couple of days stripping the moldings off my 48 Plymouth to get her ready to go back into the paint shop for a do over.  I started that project in Sept/Oct of 2004.  I decided before I start taking another thing apart I need to finish this car complete.  Just have too many things demanding my time.  Hope to correct this soon.

I'll let you know,  Chet...

Quote from: Old Man on September 11, 2013, 09:36:10 AM
One of the best stories I ever heard was the development of the Rolls Royce MERLIN engine used almost exclusively in Allied aircraft during WWII. The engine was only good for about 20 hours before it needed a major overhaul. But Packard Motors of Detroit was asked to build the engine on this side of the pond for use in North American designed aircraft. So off they went to England to look at the engine and it's testing. R/R engineers were doing their normal touchy feely thing with the engine and not looking to really TEST it as the Americans would. (Little did they know.) So the Packard engineers put the throttle wide open and asked where the nearest watering hole was. The R/R engineers nearly fainted. "It will blow up if you leave it like that!" "Yes" said the Packard guys," and then we'll find out why it broke and put in a better part for that one and start again until we can't break the damn thing." So that was how a good British motor became an unbreakable Packard motor and was used in the U.S. built Mustang,Canadian built Lancaster and Canadian built Mosquito and by the end of the war it was reffered to as the "Packard Merlin". If left on their own the R/R engineers would never have "got it". And then of course there's Lucas electrics. But don't get me started on that!

Great Story !!!!  Thanks

Frank,

Are you looking for 475/500 20" because if I decide to go with the 19" wheels I would consider letting my 20" rubber go to a good home.  The tires are a couple of years old but have less then 1,000 miles.  Just an FYI...

Chet...

Hi Frank here are some links to places I was looking at.  I will probably go to Universal at Hershey and look at the tires before I buy any.  The internet is good for research but I am getting tired of buying things based on pictures.

Here is the link to Universal Vintage Tire in Hershey PA:
https://www.universaltire.com/

You probably already know Coker Tire:
http://www.cokertire.com/

Here is Lucas Classic Tires - Long Beach, CA & Springfield, OH
http://www.lucasclassictires.com/

racertb,

Thanks for the info on Lester I think I am leaning in that direction.

Chet...

More on Tires:

If I use the 19" wheels let's see if this makes sense.

I currently have Excelsior Black 475/500 – 20" on my car so:

Cross Section:      4.50"
Thread Width:      3.50"
OD:         30.50"
Rim Width      2.5 - 3.0"

Universal Modal A Tire Black:   Coker SK# 73320 Price  $99.00 each
Cross Section:      4.50"
Thread Width:      4.00"
OD:         30.0" (29.5")
Rim Width      2.5 - 3.0"

It looks like a pretty close match. 
Then there is the BF Goodrich 2.75" White Wall or plain Black
475/500 – 19" and these specs from the Coker site seem incorrect.  But according to the Corker Rep. they are correct for this tire.

Coker SK# 73000   Price $197.00 each
Cross Section:      5.50"
Thread Width:      3.75"
OD:         30.50"
Rim Width      2.5 - 3.0"

This seems the best fit from Universal Tire Hershey PA
Lester Black  525/550-19 Price $164 each

Thread Width:      4.75
OD         30.75
Rim Width      3"

Any Comments or experiences ?

Steve,

Rightly or wrongly in an old motor I have always stayed away from detergent oils unless the motor was rebuilt.  The theory is not to loosen a large chunk of oil sludge that can clog a port and create mechanical damage. Clean out as much as you can and change the oil frequently would be my advise.

Chet...

Well my car will never be a show winner it has seen some hard times over the years.  The last person who did so called restoration worked approached the carpentry with drywall screws and tongue and grove flooring.  As Frank asked.., my goal is to do as little additional harm as possible while trying to undo some of the well attentions of its prior owners.   So I guess my goal is to leave her in better shape then I found her in.   Based on what I can decipher from the serial number.  The car probably rolled off the line in March of 1929.  So I guess besides the motor, the wheels are some of the few original parts that are still left.   Although having good wheels to roll around on is an enticing thought.  It just pains me to add to the miss intentions of its previous owners but the economic reality might take precedence. 

Chet...

I picked up four nice wood wheels from Don F in Massachusetts.  Unfortunately they are 19 in wheels and my 29U originally had 20 inch wheels.  Shame on me for not checking. 

Here is my dilemma:

Should I invest more money in tires and tubes or sell the wheels at a loss for a quick sale?  I believe these wheels are correct for the 30U.  I don't blame Don, after all my 29 is registered as a 28U.  I guess the old saying penny wise pound foolish.  To date I have now spent more on wheels then the cost to re-spoke mine.

Am I being nuts about an inch.  The tires on these 19" wheels are 6.0 - 19 and are actually larger then my 4.75 - 20 original wheels.  It's only a 1/2 inch change in radius.  If I keep them I would also need a spare tire & rim although I could shoot craps with the spare.

Chet...

Frank here is the link to the pictures:

http://www.ellingsoncarmuseum.com/Active/2013%20Cars/1929%20Plymouth%20-%20Rust/1929%20Plymouth%20-%20Rust.html