28Q29U Plymouth Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: chetbrz on December 11, 2017, 05:21:36 PM

Title: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 11, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Has anyone had any luck fixing a chip in the enamel of the Plymouth Radiator Emblem.  See below the chip in the sail.

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/chetbrz/Emblem01.jpg) 
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: Russ T. Fender on December 12, 2017, 02:59:39 AM
I have used powder that I got from a powder coater.  I mixed the powder with acetone to make a paste that is just thin enough to spread out into the chip.  It works well on pwder coated rims that get chipped so I expect it would work for your badge.  I had the benefit of having the same color powder as was used on the part being repaired so the match was perfect.  Your problem will be getting the right color to match your badge.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 12, 2017, 03:34:56 AM
I have never done anything with powder coat.  My assumption is that after you apply the powder you have to bake the item.  I do have another 29 emblem that is in really bad shape that I can experiment with. 

Do you think I could match an artist's oil paint and then spray the emblem with clear coat ?

There is a powder coat guy near me I'll see if I can find a white match and his willingness to part with some magic powder. 
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: Russ T. Fender on December 12, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
No need to bake it but it may not be as durable as true powder coating.  The repair I made to a wire wheel on my 30-U is a perfect match.  I was afraid to have wheels powder coated because of the repair issue if they get chipped.  The owner of the powder coating company is the one who told me how to make a repair using the powder and acetone.  I will never paint a wire wheel again!
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 16, 2017, 08:48:39 PM
I found a white enamel paint in a hobby shop near my home. 

The Testor Corp   # 1145-RM11451_0611  Gl. White/Blanc   0.25oz bottle  $2.00
Rockford, IL  61104  (800-962-6654)

Seemed to work very well, hopefully it wears well also.

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/chetbrz/Emblem01.jpg)    (http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/chetbrz/Emblem02.jpg)
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: frankp on December 17, 2017, 11:27:13 PM
Well done, Chet!  Are you going to try a copper paint on the "silver" areas?
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 18, 2017, 01:09:47 AM
Well done, Chet!  Are you going to try a copper paint on the "silver" areas?

Frank the 29 was silver the 28 was copper or brown.  The 28 also said Chrysler above the Plymouth.  So you might say that the 29 was the first true Plymouth car.   :)
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: frankp on December 18, 2017, 01:28:18 AM
I thought Old Man addressed this before and "indicated" it was copper for 29 also.  I tried a search for that, but as usual, came up empty.  The base metal looks a bit dodgy next to a shiny radiator surround?  I think I have one that has a bit of Cu color in the hull of the ship.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: 29UJohn on December 18, 2017, 05:00:19 AM
My 29U appears to be some type of copper alloy, maybe brass. I polished it and looks good against the chrome shell.
On mine I had a chip out of the blue which was very hard to match. I never really could get it right, but not very noticeable.
I think my car was built in May of 1929.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 18, 2017, 08:13:39 AM
Below are three Plymouth emblems.

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/chetbrz/Emblem03.jpg)

Emblem 'A' was on my car when I purchased it.  This is not the correct emblem for a 1929.  This emblem is for a 1928 Q. 

Emblem 'B' is a 29U emblem that is badly damaged.  You can see that the copper is below the surface of the top plating and enamel work.

Emblem 'C' is the emblem I repaired the enamel chip.  This emblem was in someone's emblem collection.  I suspect that if the emblem is copper on the surface it is from years of polishing the car which probably has eroded the silver surface.

Below is the back of Emblem 'C' which had a secondary pin soldered to the rear of the emblem to facilitate mounting it in a display.

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/chetbrz/Emblem02-B.jpg)

I removed the Pin and the solder from the top back.  The last bits I sanded.  The copper is under the original plating. 
The printing at the bottom is:  "THE DLAULD CO.  COLUMBUS

This is my opinion and I think the pictures clarify my assertion.

Chet...
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: 29UJohn on December 18, 2017, 03:09:28 PM
      I am sure you are correct. I found another emblem and tried replating it with a hobby kit, but it had fine scratches on the brass that made the chrome Look not so good.  When I mounted it I discovered it was not curved enough and the upper and lower portions stuck out from the shell.  So I polished the brass on my original emblem and went with that for now.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: racertb on December 19, 2017, 08:33:48 PM
Here is mine:

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/thumbs/racertb/Emblem.jpg?m=1513708269)
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: 29UJohn on December 20, 2017, 05:35:09 AM
I wonder if they were nickle plated and not chrome plated.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: Articifer Tom on December 20, 2017, 03:29:55 PM
Does have the duller look of nickel . Nickel is easily electrically applied or plated . I use to do on belt buckles instead of silver that dulls out faster . Redid my gage bezel came out decent .
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on December 20, 2017, 04:40:21 PM
Hi John & Tom,

I agree with both of you.  Definitely not chrome plated. The duller silver color is probably nickel. Best guess.   

Chet...

PS... Ted you have the correct emblem but after 89 years of polishing the car it is not unusual to have buffed away the original finish.  The enamel holds up much better than the plating.
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: 29UJohn on January 11, 2018, 03:12:18 AM
I posted a picture of a radiator emblem I rechromed using a hobby kit.  It is on the off-site photo page.  Unfortunately the emblem's curve di not match my radiator shell, it was too flat and looke bad on the shell, so I din't use it.

(I could not figure out how to take the picture so that the file size would be small enough to load here.)
Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: chetbrz on January 11, 2018, 04:19:30 AM
I posted a picture of a radiator emblem I rechromed using a hobby kit.  It is on the off-site photo page.  Unfortunately the emblem's curve di not match my radiator shell, it was too flat and looke bad on the shell, so I din't use it.

(I could not figure out how to take the picture so that the file size would be small enough to load here.)

John,

If you are using a windows based system right click on the Gallery image and go to properties and copy the image link.  Then click on the insert image icon (binoculars) in the forum "Post reply form" which is the first icon on the second line.  This action will insert the following code in your text {img][/img] Past your link in-between the image brackets.
{img]PAST LINK HERE[/img]   example:  {img]http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/thumbs/29UJohn/Emblem.jpg[/img]

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/thumbs/29UJohn/Emblem.jpg)

Larger image:

(http://www.1948plymouth.info/galley/var/resizes/29UJohn/Emblem.jpg)

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Title: Re: Radiator Emblem
Post by: 29UJohn on January 13, 2018, 04:54:23 PM
Chet, Thanks -  I'll have to save those instructions!