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General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 04, 2013, 12:33:05 AM »
Thanks for the reply and info Frank.  I have no idea at this point how the replacement headliner is secured to the bows.  I think the tacks in mine might have been an attempt to put a sagging headliner back in place.  I don't think it would have come from the factory with tacks showing across the headliner.  I kept the old headliner so I will pull it out and see if I can figure this out.  At any rate, I don't think a little extra wood along the bows will change much, if anything.  I would hate to skip the reinforcement step and then have a bow crack or break after the new top is on!  Thanks for sending your thoughts along to me.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 03, 2013, 05:36:07 PM »
Well, I hadn't thought about that.  I wonder if it will make a difference?  I was going to make the additional support pieces just slightly smaller (top to bottom measure) than the bows, then glue, clamp, and staple them.  The end result would be the original bow sandwiched between the 2 pieces of 3/16 plywood; so about 3/8" of wood would be added to each bow.  The other option I considered was to just make new bows but they are cut with a 1/2" "crown" in the they really are bowed up a bit.  My bandsaw is down and needs work so without a good way to cut the long curved pieces, I decided to reinforce the existing bows.  But now you've got me rethinking that.  Hmmmmm.......  How exactly do you think the headliner might be affected?  In my '29 it was just tacked to the bottom of the bows but maybe that was not the original method of attachment?  Let me know your thinking.  Thanks.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 03, 2013, 08:15:31 AM »
Took some time out from getting the '35 ready for the Tucson road trip today to work some more on the top wood of the '29 coupe.  I finished removing the top slats today.  Many of the slats had splits and cracks so replacement seemed the right choice.  Besides, with the slats out of the way, repair of the rear right corner dry rot will be easier (but still difficult).  There are 15 slats from front to back across the top wood bows.  Each slat is 1/4" thick x 1 3/4" wide; I am going to mill new ones from poplar stock that I found and Home Depot; these are already planned to 1/4" thick x 6" wide x 48" long.  I'll be able to rip these down and get 3 from each.  Total cost for the poplar stock was about $40, but it saves me a lot of work planning thicker stock down and making lots of sawdust out of perfectly good boards.  I am uncertain what wood the original slats were made of but it was not oak.  The rest of the wood I've looked at closely in the cabin framing is oak.  The 4 top bows and 1" x 1" oak with some cracks and weak spots I've glued but they still need reinforcement.  So, the plan is to laminate 3/16" plywood to both sides of each top bow.  I think that will strengthen them enough.  Each slat was nailed to each cross bow with 2 "holdfast" nails and another 1 or 2 in each end (picture provided for any purists who want to do things like originally done).  Me, I'm going to use my pneumatic narrow crown stapler to fasten the new slats.  I took a picture of the slatless top but it may be hard to tell what is what because one is looking through the top and the car to stuff on the other side.  You can see I am continuing to fill nail holes  (toothpic carpentry).  I didn't finish that task 'cause I ran out of toothpics...that was a box of 250 each broken in half!!  That's a lot of filled holes.  Like I said, I think the old girl had her top off a few times...!!

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 01, 2013, 05:19:29 PM »
Hey Glenn and Frank.  Thanks for the feed-back.  I expect I will get little time to work on the '29 this week as I need to get the '35 and myself ready for the trip.  I noticed this weekend that a front headlight is out so that will be near the top of the list.  And a lube and oil change too.  Plus all the other little things to take care of before the road trip.  But I am looking forward to the caravan from the SF Bay area to Tucson with about 6-8 others and their cars.  Glenn, I am looking forward to meeting you.  I will likely be wearing a black baseball cap that has "Plymouth" across the front.  Hope I make it there and back with no car troubles...and you do too.  Have a good week, guys.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 01, 2013, 03:05:54 AM »
Hmmmmmm....something happened to picture in the ether somewhere I suppose....or maybe "operator error".  Here's picture 1 for the previous post.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 01, 2013, 03:03:08 AM »
Well, work on repair and replacement of the wood in the top of my '29 business coupe (pic 1) continues but seems to be interrupted frequently so progress is real slow.  I pondered not replacing the top slats or only doing the ones that were badly split (pic 2) but I decided that the other wood repairs I want to do will be easier with the top slats out of the way.  So, they are coming out and I think it was the right decision.  Many of them need replacement.  Filling holes with toothpics continues; there are many more yet to do.  There is a 1/2 inch wide strip of thin metal (similar to plumber's strapping metal) that ran across the ends of the slats at the front and back (pic 2).  This strip was tacked down over the slat on either side of it to help hold it in place (the front of each slat was not tacked so this metal held the front ends in place; the back of each slat was tacked and covered by the metal tacked down on either side of the slat).  Lots of holes to fill!  I haven't been able to find a replacement for this flexible steel strapping.  I am considering replacing it with copper strapping.  I plan to use narrow crown steel staples to secure the wood slats and metal strap.  However, I was wondering if the contact of dissimilar metals may cause one or both metals to corrode quickly (galvanic action)?  Anybody have any thoughts?  The '35 Plymouth Deluxe Sedan in the background is my unrestored car that I will be driving to Tucson in 10 days.  Hope that goes well; it's over 900 mi one-way so hope the old girl can manage it!  So, work continues, but slowly.  But, it's spring!  Yea!!

General Discussion / Re: POC National meet in Tucson
« on: March 14, 2013, 03:14:14 AM »
Hi Glenn.  I am planning on driving my '35 Deluxe sedan (unrestored original) from Lodi CA to Tucson (almost 1000 mi one way!).  I hope this is not a half-baked idea but at least I will be traveling with others from the northern CA area (POC Golden State Region).  Although I won't be anywhere near your route, I sure hope we can meet while we are there.  Maybe we can figure out a way to do that.  Have a safe trip.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: March 10, 2013, 05:23:57 PM »
Hi OM!  Well, I am retired, so that accounts for the free time.  But I can't spend all my time and money in the garage do things that are fun for me...I have to take care of the one who takes care of me!  As they say, "happy wife, happy life!"  As for the inordinate amount of money...I wish that was so....then I would just be "helping" with this restoration work instead of struggling through much of it by my self!  :)   I save the $$ in order to do those things I don't have the knowledge and skills to do....I am envious of those "mechanics" on the forum that obviously can tackle any job on these old cars. The exchange of information via this forum has helped me a lot; it is a valuable "library" for 1st hand information.  By the way, I think you and I are about the same age and that ain't so old! :)

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: March 10, 2013, 08:04:36 AM »
Hi Gary.  Yup...what you suggest is what I did with both the engine removal and clum switch.  Everything came out fine...a few of months ago!  :)  But thanks anyhow!  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: March 10, 2013, 04:45:15 AM »
Hi all.  Sorry for the wife and I took off on a little vacation for a couple of weeks.  For the 'old man', yes, I do use wood glue whenever I can.  I'm a believer!  Presently I use Titebond II or III...the latter on this project.  First I dry fit the break to see if I can get it close to an acceptable fit, then I use the glue liberally, get it into all the crevices, then fit the pieces back together exactly, then clamp everything for at least several hours (generally much longer than necessary...that's just to make me more comfortable with the repair).  I'm sure many of you have done similar work...nothing new here.  Generally the repairs come out real good.  But I plan to glue strips of wood along both sides of each top bow in order to reinforce the wood.  The bows are especially vulnerable at their ends because half of the bow was cut away for the lap joint with the side wood beams.  There are several breaks in the bows at this location; the pictures show repair of one.  So, the wood work continues a little bit at a time.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: an engine question...
« on: February 24, 2013, 07:59:45 PM »
Hi 1930.  I just searched "inserts" on this forum.  There are a couple of different threads of discussion about the pros and cons of converting the engine to inserts.  Generally, the consensus seemed to be to retain the babbitts for cars that will just be driven occasionally for pleasure.  At least that's what i got out it.  Check it out.

General Discussion / Re: an engine question...
« on: February 24, 2013, 03:36:35 AM »
Hi Rich.  I am hoping for the best when I get into the engine.  But that won't happen for at least 2+ weeks.  I don't want to get too many projects going at once.  That said however, I would like to make progress on several things at a time; while something may have to sit and wait for whatever reason, I'd like to still be making progress somewhere else.  I don't have forever to complete this adventure!  Thanks for the post.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: an engine question...
« on: February 23, 2013, 07:10:55 PM »
Hi Frank.  Yeah, I was looking around the internet for engine dollies; some you build and some you buy.  I wanted something cheap with casters; seems I'm always re-arranging things in the shop so I didn't want an engine on a stand I couldn't move.  I was going to build one but then looked at my plan and thought "I've seen those!"  At Harbor Freight they sell furniture dollies like the one in the picture for about $20.  I've got V8s and transmissions on them.  I've only had one that had some weak wood that I reinforced.  And you can't beat the price.  Thanks for the feedback.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: February 23, 2013, 07:02:30 PM »
Hi Frank and SDGlenn.  Yeah, Frank, I wish you were here to help, too.  Stuff always seems to go more than twice as fast with 2 people working on it.  And yes, Glenn, dowels were my thought too.  I'm going to make new pieces without the mortise and tenon and use dowels and glue to pin everything back together.  At least that's the plan.  Making the pieces to get a nice tight dry fit will be the challenge.  I want to get the wood work repair done, hopefully during the next month, so I can get on with some new and different (like axels, suspension, seals, and brakes).  I'm thinking about dropping both front and rear axels and springs off the frame to work on them.  What do you guys think?  That should make it easier to finish cleaning up the frame and painting it too. 

General Discussion / Re: an engine question...
« on: February 23, 2013, 09:22:53 AM »
My '29 engine is back work done to it.  I'll start on it myself with help from some friends.  I think we will be able to figure out what needs to be done.  I am hoping that everything is good.  It was last run in 1957.  But it been kept lubricated so it turns over freely.  Still, I have my fingers crossed.

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