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General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 28, 2012, 09:11:00 PM »
2 more pictures...

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 28, 2012, 09:09:11 PM »
Hello everyone.  I worked on a small part (about 6 inches adjacent to the corner I posted about) of the top front wood this afternoon.  Learned some more lessons too.  I put up a wood dam smeared with a light coat of silicon as a "mold release".  There was some missing wood around the left front corner that I wanted to fill.  PolyAll sets up fast; they're not kidding when they sat it sets in 3 minutes!  I thought I could brush it over the nail holes to let it run down in them, then tap in about a dozen toothpics, then put a second coat on around the base of the toothpics.  Well, the product set up after I got just a few toothpics in the holes.  I mixed up some PolyAll with sawdust to fill the big holes just like last time.  The sawdust slows down the set up time a lot and gives much more time to work the stuff into the bigger voids (probably about 6 minutes).  I am only mixing about 1 teaspoon of each; by the time I am finished with applying that little bit, it's beginning to set.  I am using those small tinning brushes; they're cheap and after 1 use they are done.  So, plan your job, don't try to cover too much ground, use small quantities of PolyAll, work fast, use disposable supplies, and cover any part of the car where the PolyAll may drip.  4 pics will follow; 2 here and 2 more in a second post.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 28, 2012, 02:10:42 AM »
Thanks OM.  PolyAll is exactly as you described....really great stuff.  I was unsure what to do about some of the wood but all doubt is gone now after today's 1st experience working with PolyAll.  I will post pictures of the top front wood piece as I treat should make a good "show and tell".  I am attaching a picture now so you can see the wood piece I will be working on.  Thanks again OM for sharing your "find".  Kim 

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 27, 2012, 05:43:29 PM »
last picture of my PolyAll job...

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 27, 2012, 05:42:09 PM »
More pictures of the PolyAll repair job....

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 27, 2012, 05:39:55 PM »
Well, I tried out the PolyAll recommended by the Old Man and SDGlenn.  You guys are right, that is great stuff.  Just follow the directions.  It only comes in two 16 0z cans (parts A & B) now; the shipping from Canada is almost as much as the product but it is worth it I think.  For the job I'll show you in the attached pictures I only used about a tablespoon of each.  I first built a dam to keep the liquid from running all over (I had the chore of having to remove the contents of a beer can first...tough job but someone had to do it).  I cut a piece of aluminum, slid it under the repair area and taped it in place.  Then I brushed on the liquid PolyAll to get it way back in the holes.  Then I mixed up a putty as directed using sawdust as a filler.  I packed it into the voids and holes with a steel punch.  I was also able to build the wood out to cover the opening at the top of the door post that needed to be closed (compare the 1st and last pics).  The stuff set up pretty fast but slow enough that I could work the sawdust mixture into the holes and smooth the surface.  I was pretty happy with my first job with this stuff.  I will work on the front wood piece above the windshield next; it has lots of cracks that PolyAll will fill very well.  I am going to try using the PolyAll to saturate the nail & tack holes, then tap tooth pics into the holes.  I'll follow that by another coat of PolyAll over the toothpics; I think that will be faster and maybe better that the wood glue routine I used first.  Either way, the wood should be ready for a new top someday without a bunch of old rusty holes in the wood (I think there may have been 3 tops; the original, the one put on in about 1956 when I got the car, and probably one other along the way before '56).  I'm going to have to put up the pictures in several posts; I've reduced the size of them as much as I know how to do.  Fun day in the shop with my project.  Have a good weekend.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 26, 2012, 06:49:59 PM »
Well, is this crazy?  I decided to fill all the tack and nail holes in the top wood piece above the R door.  I used Titebond waterproof glue to fill the holes then tapped toothpics deep into the wood.  I figured that when the new top goes on I don't want new fasteners just going into old holes and not holding well.  Once I cut these off and sand them flush, I will follow with a treatment of the PolyAll that Old Man recommended; that should fill all the cracks and splits and bad spots.  This one side was really tedious.  I hope this isn't a dumb waste of time!  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:32:49 PM »
Hello.  I spent most of the day cleaning up, organizing, and putting up a new shelf unit to store the many parts and fasteners.  I made sure everything was bagged, labeled, and stored in labeled bins (pic attached).  The Dollar Store has great containers for this kind of stuff.  I did remove the two rear motor mounts.  I thought they were just a steel bracket bolted to the frame.  Turns out there is a chunk of old rubber sandwiched in each (pic attached); the rubber is so hard it is just about like steel.  I'll have to have these re-built or buy new; don't know at this point.  More looking to do on the internet.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: 'Shocks' on a '28,'29 or 30U
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:10:32 PM »
Hi OM.  Interesting info in your last post.  I didn't know springs could be re-arched.  I have some questions about my front springs that maybe you can answer.  I've attached a picture of both the left front (LF) and right front (RF) spring shock eliminators.  You can see the LF has much more arch than the RF shock eliminator.  Even the u-bolts that hold them are slightly different.  Perhaps a new spring or new leaves had to be installed at some time in the past.  What I am really curious about is the wood wedge between the base of the LF spring and the axel.  What's up with that?  And wood???  Doesn't seem to me that would last very long...that's got to be a pretty punishing location for a wood wedge.  So, the real question is "Why"?  Is that an indication that the geometry of the axel or something else is out of alignment?  Any insight you have about this is appreciated.  Thanks.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: 'Shocks' on a '28,'29 or 30U
« on: October 24, 2012, 10:14:15 AM »
Thanks Ian.  Removing the springs sounds like an easier job than I thought it would be.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 23, 2012, 10:29:38 PM »
Hey, I think I may have found the colors.  They are on the 1929 Chrysler, just as you suggested.  I had looked at Chrysler before but never had the color chips that this site provided.  Thanks so much Frank.  This is great info.  Regards, Kim

General Discussion / Re: 'Shocks' on a '28,'29 or 30U
« on: October 23, 2012, 08:50:49 PM »
Hey, thanks OM, I didn't know that.  I went right out and looked at my springs ('29 coupe).  There are 2 of these "shock eliminators" on all 4 springs; one is at the front and one at the back of each spring.  (pictures of front springs attached).  I think you will be able to see from the picture that the "shock eliminators" on the right front spring are more flattened than are the shock eliminators on the left front spring (which have more arch in them).  Does this matter?  Is this something that can or should be fixed?  I was thinking I should remove the springs to replace the bushings in the hangers.  Do you recommend that?  How does one remove a spring safely?  I appreciate that you share your experience and knowledge.  I am a complete novice at this.  Thanks.  Kim 

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 22, 2012, 09:24:54 PM »
Thanks for looking Jason...I appreciate your effort.  I agree with Chet that I have the 2 color "chips" already on the car and I can probably have those matched.  I have been trying to find in the literature the names for those particular colors so I can use these when I shop for paint.  Painting the car is a long way off, but I have been trying to find info about '29 paint colors for the past two years.  I figured others on this forum would be good sources; Chet's info about the Salesman's Reference Manual is a new lead and something I will pursue.  Thanks again for the reply.  By the way, I took lots of measurements and pictures of the top wood structure inside and out and the wood around the back of the cab (which is probably similar in both coupes and sedans).  There is a lot of text and many pictures.  I emailed a large document to a couple of members that had asked for this stuff.  So, if there is anyone else out there interested in the top wood and interior wood of the cab, let me know.  I'll post a couple of pictures here for all to look at.  Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: October 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM »
Thanks Chet.  I don't have that manual so now I have something to hunt for.  Maybe a forum member has a 1929 Salesman's Reference Manual that they can check for paint colors....anyone? 

General Discussion / Re: Old man's '29U
« on: October 21, 2012, 08:02:46 PM »
You don't have to own a '29 Plymouth in order to be a great source of information about the cars and matters of restoration.  I appreciate that you've taken the time to help me with my project and recommend the PolyAll.  I hope you will continue to advise me as I proceed with this adventure of my first car restoration.  Regards, Kim

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