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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 11:48:21 PM »
Looks good. Chet.  Of course you know, now is the time to replace the horn wire, if needed.  Nice job on the spring bumpers.  frank
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2016, 10:41:04 AM »
The Springs have arrived !!!
OLD:



NEW:



Hopefully the car will sit and ride evenly again.  Well see....

PS... Frank, Yes new horn wire a must.  Also; I plan to order a new reproduction wire harness for the car.
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2016, 12:17:47 PM »
Good stuff Chet!

I already see items I will be referencing with my slow progress on my project.

Interested in the wiring harness source and price. It is something I need to get done.

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2016, 04:59:09 PM »
Good stuff Chet!
I already see items I will be referencing with my slow progress on my project.
Interested in the wiring harness source and price. It is something I need to get done.

I have not ordered from them but check out this link: 
http://www.harnessesunlimited.com/new%20forms/plymouth%20web%20page.pdf

Website:   http://www.harnessesunlimited.com/

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2016, 10:48:53 PM »
Springs look great!  How fast was the turnaround?

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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2016, 10:04:43 PM »
I started the reassembly of the front suspension.

Over the past week or so I had removed the gravel shield and steering box and have been cleaning and renewing the front assembly parts.  Both tie rod ends have been cleaned as well as the tie rod shaft.  Removing the protective coating of grime has been a difficult task.  I am saving some parts like the gravel shields for the Hot Tank at our local Napa store.  Also I cleaned as much of the wheel well as needed and painted it with flat black rust-oleum.  With this work completed I started to reassemble the driver's side suspension.

I lightly honed the frame shackle holes to clear them of any burs.  I used a large 'C' clamp to press the Teflon Bushing into place.



Below is a picture of the shackle setup without the locking nuts.  I added washers to keep the shackle ends from scraping against the spring and frame support.



I installed the Steering Box, New Leaf Spring, Bumper, reassembled the Drag Link, New Grease fittings and greased everything.  I am very happy with the end result.



I also spent some time on the passenger side spring now that the Driver's side is completed.  The passenger side was in really bad shape.  The top leaf had been broken and was welded.  I can't believe I was ridding around with this spring in this condition.



BTW, The passenger side leaf spring had a different shackle setup.  It had a metal bushing with a screw in center pivot shaft that the shackle ends connected to.  Definitely a much better shackle than the Tryon Shackle.  I believe the different shackle and welded top leaf happened quite awhile ago.  With all the grime on the leaf spring you couldn't notice that a half leaf was added to facilitate the broken front spring eyelet.   :o

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2016, 10:25:38 AM »
Looking good Chet . I did not see the different passenger side shackle , please show .
     Also on your removal of steering box . Did you notice any slotting of holes in frame where it mounts or internal adjustment . I am trying to adjust my steering wheel higher to accommodate my love handles . There are slots on the mount in cab , but maybe for just differences in cabs and frames .
    Remember reading about the bolt holding the shackle together also squeezed it to dampen the action of the suspension and nuts were then locked in position . Do not know how your extra washers may effect that ,if at all . 

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2016, 04:58:30 PM »
Looking good Chet . I did not see the different passenger side shackle , please show .
     Also on your removal of steering box . Did you notice any slotting of holes in frame where it mounts or internal adjustment . I am trying to adjust my steering wheel higher to accommodate my love handles . There are slots on the mount in cab , but maybe for just differences in cabs and frames .
    Remember reading about the bolt holding the shackle together also squeezed it to dampen the action of the suspension and nuts were then locked in position . Do not know how your extra washers may effect that ,if at all .

Tom,

There is not much adjustment you can do with the steering box as far as raising it.  There are only 4 bolts that hold the box in place and basically have slight adjustability to facilitate aligning the pivot gear through the frame. 

With the shackles I used.., there is no center bolt just end nuts for each shackle shaft.  These bolts are not locked down against the shackle sides.  The bolts are self locking so you leave a little play to allow for movement. 

I will clean the old shackle I removed and take a picture.  I believe these might be the same on the rear springs and if so.., they should be in great shape since this shackle is a mechanical overkill for the purpose.  The front is coming out so well that I might go for new rear springs also.

Thanks for your interest,  Chet...
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2016, 05:14:59 PM »
Looking good Chet . I did not see the different passenger side shackle , please show .....   

Seasons Greetings and back to work.

I cleaned up the Shackle which was on the front passenger side spring.  This shackle is very different to the Tryon Shackle which I am told was used on this car.  I have attached a picture below in the hopes that someone might recognize this shackle.  I believe my rear springs also have this type of shackle.  Of course the rear shackle is a bit larger.
See Below...



Tks, Chet...
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2017, 04:32:52 PM »
Happy New Year !!!

On this rainy January 3rd. I installed the new passenger side front leaf spring and reassembled the tie rod ends and installed and aligned the front spindles as well as I could without the drums and wheels.



I also dropped off the front brake mounting plates and the gravel guards from the engine compartment.., at my local Napa machine shop to be hot tank and clean before paint and reassembly.  I have new front brake pads ready for installation.



I am almost finished with the front suspension, I guess I will turn my attention to the rear axle once I am totally finished with the front. 
PS... this is coming out better than I expected.  I think the word is awesome.  :)

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2017, 05:27:22 PM »
Looking good there Chet . I see those other shackles ,though maybe they were Ford type . I think Ford's have castle type nuts . Probability some aftermarket company . Noticed your tie rod ends are the spring topped type is there part numbers on them , and are they original ?

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2017, 09:15:29 PM »
... Noticed your tie rod ends are the spring topped type is there part numbers on them , and are they original ?

All the steering components are my original parts which have been disassembled cleaned and reassembled.  Including the tie rod, the tie rod ends, and drag link.

Cheers,  Chet..
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2017, 02:39:57 PM »
Lookin' good, Chet!   Brings memories of long ago.   frank
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2017, 12:42:01 PM »
Chet, you can re-do my springs and make them look shiny like yours when you're finished ;)

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2017, 12:27:39 PM »
Ted, I think this car may cure me of any future ambitious tasks related to springs. 

Frank, your past experiences will continue to prove helpful as time goes on.  The steering wheel removal was exactly as you remembered.

I wanted to make more progress today but the weather will just not cooperate. I  picked up my parts from the machine shop on Friday an with the aid of two electric heaters and one propane heater I was able to warm my work shed enough to paint these parts.   Allowing them to sit out in the air after cleaning would just invite rust.   As it was, I had to lightly buff them prior to painting.



As far as today goes, since this morning we are experiencing whiteout conditions and between the cold winds and snow it's not enjoyable to be working out in the garage today.  Even with the heaters running.   :(
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