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#886
General Discussion / Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays
December 23, 2017, 08:56:27 AM


To All !!!
#887
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
December 20, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
Odds & Ends

While the motor and other items are out for repair I cleaned up the front section of the frame.  The electrical harness arrived rather quickly so I also stripped the firewall and prepped it for paint.  Once these final areas are cleaned and painted I can install the wiring harness and get the car ready for the rebuilt engine.  Fingers crossed.



I removed the rear motor mounts.  These items have been in the car since it was manufactured.  The rubber was as hard as a rock.  I will send these out to have new rubber volcanized onto the existing mounts.  I painted the inner sections of the front frames.  This was the only portion of the frame that I hadn't gotten to.   I cleaned and painted the outer sections when I did the front suspension work.

Getting the firewall ready for paint basically took two days.  Stripping all the brackets and misc. items allow me to be able to strip the old paint off.  It's much easier to do if you don't have to negotiate around objects.  So it took two days to prepare the surface to spray 60 seconds of primer twice.  I was able to bring the garage air temperature up to 63 degrees with 36% humidity.  Not bad considering it was in the high forties outside.

The space heater in front of the firewall is just to keep the temperature near the firewall at 70-75 degrees.   Primer dries quickly so I will let it dry for a couple of hours.



Saturday the outdoor temperature might possibly go into the low 60's.  If it doesn't rain I'll paint the finish coat.

#888
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
December 20, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Anyone have these rear mounts re-vulcanized.  If so how did they come out ?

#889
General Discussion / Re: Radiator Emblem
December 20, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
Hi John & Tom,

I agree with both of you.  Definitely not chrome plated. The duller silver color is probably nickel. Best guess.   

Chet...

PS... Ted you have the correct emblem but after 89 years of polishing the car it is not unusual to have buffed away the original finish.  The enamel holds up much better than the plating.
#890
General Discussion / Re: Radiator Emblem
December 18, 2017, 01:13:39 AM
Below are three Plymouth emblems.



Emblem 'A' was on my car when I purchased it.  This is not the correct emblem for a 1929.  This emblem is for a 1928 Q. 

Emblem 'B' is a 29U emblem that is badly damaged.  You can see that the copper is below the surface of the top plating and enamel work.

Emblem 'C' is the emblem I repaired the enamel chip.  This emblem was in someone's emblem collection.  I suspect that if the emblem is copper on the surface it is from years of polishing the car which probably has eroded the silver surface.

Below is the back of Emblem 'C' which had a secondary pin soldered to the rear of the emblem to facilitate mounting it in a display.



I removed the Pin and the solder from the top back.  The last bits I sanded.  The copper is under the original plating. 
The printing at the bottom is:  "THE DLAULD CO.  COLUMBUS

This is my opinion and I think the pictures clarify my assertion.

Chet...
#891
General Discussion / Re: Firewall Tag
December 17, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: 29UJohn on December 17, 2017, 03:51:16 PM
I'll check and see how many good ones I have. Some were prototypes that may not be good enough.

John,

I'm going to try and remove the paint off of my original tag and if it comes out OK I will probably use it.  Its nice to keep some patina.  Since Dave doesn't have a Tag keep him in mind as a first priority.

Chet...
#892
General Discussion / Re: Radiator Emblem
December 17, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: frankp on December 17, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
Well done, Chet!  Are you going to try a copper paint on the "silver" areas?

Frank the 29 was silver the 28 was copper or brown.  The 28 also said Chrysler above the Plymouth.  So you might say that the 29 was the first true Plymouth car.   :)
#893
General Discussion / Re: Firewall Tag
December 17, 2017, 09:13:46 AM

Eric, you are right on.  I googled it and it translates exactly to what you posted.  Interesting that it is Spanish I thought maybe Latin or maybe they are synonymous but definitely a legal term.

Very interesting, Thanks...
#894
General Discussion / Re: Firewall Tag
December 16, 2017, 10:35:23 PM
That's Great John, I'll shoot you an email.
#895
General Discussion / Re: Firewall Tag
December 16, 2017, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: ehenin on December 16, 2017, 06:03:50 PM
M. DE F.   M.IND.  RGTRDA.

Any idea what it represents.
#896
General Discussion / Firewall Tag
December 16, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
Does anyone know if anybody reproduces this Tag ?

If not I will try to have one reproduced.  Also anyone know what the top line reads above PLYMOUTH MOTOR CORP.?



Might be able to clean it up better if I can remove the extra paint without further damage.
#897
General Discussion / Re: Radiator Emblem
December 16, 2017, 01:48:39 PM
I found a white enamel paint in a hobby shop near my home. 

The Testor Corp   # 1145-RM11451_0611  Gl. White/Blanc   0.25oz bottle  $2.00
Rockford, IL  61104  (800-962-6654)

Seemed to work very well, hopefully it wears well also.

   
#898
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
December 14, 2017, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Articifer Tom on December 14, 2017, 06:09:08 PM
No middle of eastern Pa. Hour and half north of Hershey .  You probably went up I 95 thur Jersey .

That's right, I knew you were North and not in Connecticut.  Either way I'll be going back to get the motor when they are finished.

As far as the motor is concerned yes we were right on the edge of usefull life.  Basically fixing many years of neglect and not just the motor.
#899
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
December 14, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
Tom,

I thought you lived in upstate NY.  I am not sure where i81/i80 are.., we just let the GPS lead us to where we needed to go.  I believe we were on i81 between Bridgeport & Hartford.  Probably 81 to 84 just don't remember now.  Are you in Connecticut or NY ?  We were only in NY long enough to get from NJ to Connecticut. 
#900
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
December 14, 2017, 12:26:04 PM
The Motor Continued...

I delivered the motor safe and sound to J&M Machine in Southborough, Massachusetts.  They keep a Facebook Page and will be sharing photos of the rebuild in progress.  If anyone is interested the link is below and you do not have to be a Facebook member to view the pictures.  John reports that the pistons are the original stock size.  My assumption is that this is the first major rebuild.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/J-and-M-Machine-Co-Inc-270076059772640/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1467684380011796

The weather has turned a little cold but I have still been making progress.  I sent out my Original Generator and Starter motor to Don Allen in Florence, Oregon.  Don was featured on JAY  LENO'S  GARAGE.  Don will be completely restoring these parts to original like new condition.  This includes rewinding and wiring both the Generator and Starter motor with all new parts.  A "like new" engine deserves a "like new" Generator and Starter.  Below is a link to Don's web site.

https://www.gener-nator.com/index.htm

Neither one of these processes are inexpensive and just my personal choice.  Currently I am waiting for the wiring harness so if the weather gets better I will start on cleaning up the front frames and engine firewall.  Of course working on the toe board will be a lot easier without the engine.

Happy Holidays,  Chet...