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General Discussion / Re: Fabric/rubberized U-Joint Discs
« on: November 13, 2011, 05:56:33 PM »
I got the discs from Gene yesterday and I was in the middle of installing the rear three today.  The problem is, the bolts that have the castle nuts (w/cotter pins) now don't go all the way through!  I guess the discs are a little think or not just worn in...it looks like I'm going to have to get some hex bolts about a 1/2" longer so I'll be able to get a lock washer and nut on the end.

Any other suggestions?

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General Discussion / Re: Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 06, 2011, 01:36:35 PM »
Well, here is an example of the finished product with new tire and black rim; felloe color and spokes remain the same.  Just need to clean up the tire(s)and detail a little and will be able to put back on the car.  Found some matching paint at Home Depot that I can use to touch up the felloes...all the wheels and tires look good sitting next to each other in the garage.  Working on installing the bumpers now since I had them re-chromed as well.




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General Discussion / Re: Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:03:51 AM »
I meant to say '28 Plymouth for the Chrysler museum photo...

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General Discussion / Re: Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 05, 2011, 09:58:30 AM »
John:

That's what I thought all along and why I was asking the question.  However, if the reducer nut is done that way, it's almost impossible (or entirely impossible) to get the felloe on since the stem would be too stiff in place.  To put the reducer nut on after and through the hole in the felloe is impossible as well; it won't go through the hole in the felloe.

Also, the pictures I've seen using these stems and dust covers shows the stem sticking high through the felloe with the dust cover.  If done this way you and I think it should be, them stem wouldn't stick out too much through the felloe.  I guess to confirm that both the reducer nut and dust cover both go on last and after the felloe, there is a photo of a 1929 Chrysler Model 75 in the September/October 2011 issue of the AACA magazine.  If one looks close enough, they can see the reducer nut and dust cover "on top" of the felloe in one or two of the photos.  On the AACA forum site someone had posted some cars from the Chrysler museum ('29 Plymouth) that shows the same thing...I guess that is the correct way after all.

I posed the question to Earl and Jeff Buton and the answer I received (from Earl) was that they didn't know because they have wire wheels...

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General Discussion / Re: Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 04, 2011, 10:46:50 AM »
Hi Wayne:

No rudeness taken...like in your photo, the rim I am referring to is the round piece of steel (black) with the tire mounted on it and I've got that part already to go.  The felloe is the other round piece with the wood spokes attached.  On our cars, this is steel as well (as you know) and the spokes are wood.

My question has to do with the placement of the rim washer/reducer in the first diagram (does this go on before the felloe is put on?  I don't see how it could, but I want to be sure).  Or, do I put the entire wheel together first - like in the photo -  and then the rim washer/reducer and dust cover.  This would definitely be the easier (and most likely correct) way to go, but the valve stem hole in the felloe is slightly larger than the rim washer/reducer.  I doesn't fall it, but it's just not a perfect fit.

I just want to get it right the first time since this project has been a pain in the ass :D

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General Discussion / Re: Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 03, 2011, 08:19:31 PM »
Yes...that's what I've done...my question is about the rim washer and dust cover in the diagram.  The diagram makes it look like they goe on top of the rim.  The felloe is not shown in the diagram.  If I did the rim washer and dust cover at this stage, it would most likely be impossible to get the felloe on since the valve stem would be firmly in place.

I was told - and after looking at it some more in the garage - to put the felloe on first, and then screw down the rim washer over the stem until it contacts the felloe, then put on the dust cover.  This seems to make the most sense, however, the round hole in the felloe is slightly (very slightly) bigger in diameter than the rim washer (that's why I thought of putting some sort of flat washer between the rim washer and felloe).  I'm sure it will look fine once it's on there with the dust cover either way.

Does this make any sense?

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General Discussion / Re: '29 Plymouth Rear Wheel Puller Question
« on: November 03, 2011, 05:40:51 PM »
Thanks Tony, I'll try that.  The bolt is all the way in at the moment, but I'll see if I can make something work.

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General Discussion / Demountable Rim/Felloe/Wheel Hardware Question
« on: November 03, 2011, 01:46:24 PM »
All:

I've got my new tires, flaps, rim washer and nut installed on the rims of my '29 Plymouth Roadster.  My question has to to with the placement of the reducer nut for the dust cover.  It appears on a diagram that the reducer nut would screw down over the brass stem and against top of the rim itself, then the felloe with wood spokes would go next, followed by the dust cover that would screw down on to the stem through the hole in the fellow...is this correct?

If this correct, I would find it impossible to get the felloe in place with the stem being held firmly in place with virtually no wiggle room.

According to Universal Tire (where I bought everything from), I am to put the felloe on first (which should be easier to do with wiggle room of the stem and very low, if any, air pressure in the tube) and then the reducer nut and dust cover.

If this is the correct way, the reducer nut will go down to the felloe, but the hole in the felloe is about 1" in diameter.  The reducer nut does not cover the hole 100%...is it supposed to?  I almost feel as if I'd need a washer of some type to be put on before the reducer nut and dust cover.

Is ther anyone who has experience with this?


Thanks for your help!

Ted







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General Discussion / '29 Plymouth Rear Wheel Puller Question
« on: November 03, 2011, 01:24:50 PM »
All:

I ordered  my Model TT wheel puller from Snyder's and it fits perfectly on the threads so I can get off the rear wheels...the probelm is, the bolt that is to be tightened against the axle is too short!  Has anyone else had this issue?

I assume I'll have to make a trip to Home Depot to get a longer bolt to make this work...

Ted

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General Discussion / Re: Fabric/rubberized U-Joint Discs
« on: November 02, 2011, 07:39:40 PM »
Thanks John!

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General Discussion / Re: Fabric/rubberized U-Joint Discs
« on: October 26, 2011, 09:03:50 PM »
Does anyone have an phone number for Gene?

I emailed him about a week ago and haven't received a reply...prior to that, I emailed him to inquire and he replied right away.  Now that I'd like to order, I can't get ahold of him :o

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General Discussion / Re: '29 U Roadster Tires and Rims Question
« on: October 14, 2011, 08:48:44 PM »
John - great to hear from you!

Decided to go with the black wall Lester tires...just trying to decide if I want to go with the brass (with hardware) stem or rubber stem...

I replied in another one of my posts about how hard might it might be trying to get the felloe onto the rim with the brass stem fully secured in place.  I assume it will be secured tightly under the rim with the nut and rim washer so there won't be much flexibility with it to install the felloe?

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General Discussion / Re: Fabric/rubberized U-Joint Discs
« on: October 14, 2011, 08:40:40 PM »
Thanks John...I've already emailed Gene and will get with him soon...trying to finalize what kind of tubes I'm going to go with (rubber or brass stem) first.  I've decided to go with the Lester black wall tires.

Also, I talked to Jay Fisher the other day about ordering a crank hole cover from him.

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General Discussion / Re: Inner Tubes and Valve Stems
« on: October 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM »
I emailed Jeff and he said he used nickel, however, he seemed to think it really wouldn't matter and I wouldn't lose points in a show.  I'm not really "point conscious" as I am I'd like to do it as original as possible.

Got the rims back today and want to order the tires and tubes by early next week.  I have a concern if I go with the brass stems with the hardware to mount to the rim.  I understand how the process works with securing the stem to the rim (from above and below) but I'm puzzled on how I'll be able to get the felloe on to the rim with the stem being straight up firmly in place on the rim.  At least with a rubber stem (which had been on the car for years) there would be a little flexibility to move it around and/or down to help in mounting the felloe to the rim.

Any thought on this on how to mount the felloe to the rim with the stiff/non-flexible stem?

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General Discussion / Re: Inner Tubes and Valve Stems
« on: October 02, 2011, 08:30:17 AM »
Yes, there are nickel sleeves made to cover the rubber valve stems so the "look" is (supposedly) correct.  At Coker or Universal, they are about $14 each.

The brass or nickel stem tubes require wheel hardware that attaches the stem to the felloe and then there is a sleeve for those stems as well.  There is a good diagram on the Universal site of how it all goes together.  This method (with the tubes and hardware) is more expensive than the rubber stem tubes.  Since I have everything apart and the rims are being re-done and installing new tires, I was thinking about going the brass stem route only if this is the original and correct way.  But, it would definitely be more pratical and cheaper going with the rubber stems.

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