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General Discussion / Re: steering gear control cover
« on: February 20, 2010, 04:34:07 AM »
Not sure about your 29, but I can tell you about my 30U.

I broke my first pot metal level screwing around at the steering wheel end.

The whole thing was held in place by the light switch on the bottom of the column. Take the nut loose on the bottom (horn wire runs out through it) and that will release the inner shaft which holds the horn button. On the 30U  you release the second bolt clamp at the bottom of the column (above the light switch) and that releases the second or outer shaft which controls the hand throttle. You can take these both these shafts out as a pair if you want.

I had some problems as the shafts are too long to take out without taking the steering column loose from the dash so that it could be bent down to provide enough length to remove the shafts.

Just some thoughts, hope it helps. of my pot metal levers I was able to repair with JB Weld (a 2 part epoxy) and it worked fine. I tried it again with another one and couldn't get it to hold.


General Discussion / Re: new member
« on: February 19, 2010, 10:04:45 PM »
I too am relatively new to this old Plymouth thing, but here is what I know, or think I know.

First, I was told, and think I read somewhere that the difference in a Briggs and a Hayes body is that the Hayes had flat top side windows and the Briggs body had arch topped windows. I had thought that maybe Hayes built several different body styles for Plymouth.

I checked my Master parts book and the references are as follows:

COUPES; it lists a door for the Q and U as the same part number. No reference to Hayes or Briggs.

For the 30U it lists one for the door with narrow type garnish moulding, and one for the door with wide type garnish moulding. Still no reference to Briggs or Hayes. Not sure what the wide/narrow means.

PHAETON: just lists one door for the Q, U 30-U and PA. assume they are all the same.

ROADSTER: One door listed for the Q and U, and another for the 30-U and PA. no reference to Briggs or Hayes.

TWO-DOOR SEDAN: Again one listed for the Q and U, and a different one for the 30-U and another for  the PA, but no refernce to Briggs or Hayes.

FOUR DOOR SEDAN: In this section there all lots of references to Hayes in the U for everything dealing with the body parts, quarter panels, cowl,  pillars, etc. It appears everything about the Hayes  was different down to the door handle and escutcheon plate, but the one thing I noticed is that it doesn't differentiate in the instrument panel.

I am just guessing, but would assume that the only body built by Hayes for Plymouth was some of the 4 door sedans.

Just my 2 cents worth.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Headlight lens
« on: February 18, 2010, 10:40:07 PM »
Thanks Chet, Good information. I will include it in my chart.

This information actually brings up another thought. I had listed i.e. Depress Beam, as the manufacturer when in fact they are a Brand Name. I would like to ad the actual Manufacturer as was given in your referenced site.

By adding this reference I can show after market producers which made replacement lenses as well as the original equipment provider.

Thanks again for this information.

Anyone that has information on manufacturers of lenses for the 1929 to 1939 Plymouth is encouraged to provide any information you have. Information received will be shown in a chart submitted to the POC Bulletin, provided to this board and to anyone who requests a copy.


General Discussion / 29 Headlight lens
« on: February 16, 2010, 07:25:46 PM »
I have been trying to figure out what the real information should be.

In my PLYMOUTH MASTER PARTS LIST, FINAL EDITION, FOR ALL MODELS PRIOR TO 1934, it shows the lens for the 1929 "Up to RR-683-S, U.S. built and Up to GC-331-C, Canadian built" as being a Two lite lens with a part #300520.

Big question. Is there such thing as a Two lite lens? Although I find this same exact wording referenced in several other places, which i assume simply repeated what came from the above referenced parts list, I can't find any official reference to that number (or cross reference to it), and nowhere have I found any other listing of a "Two lite lens" as a brand.

Can anyone tell me what really came on these cars? What the original part number was? What company manufactured the lens? What was their part number and what were the measurements of the lens? Any markings on the lens.

The Parts List shows the 28 Q as using part # 300153, which was a Depress Beam, part # H11471, which was a 9 5/16 X 8 1/2 lens. For the 30U it shows those up to 1560970 as using that same part # 300153, and after 1560970 it gives a part # of 321768 which was a Twilite lens part #915048 which was a 9 5/16 X 8 7/8 lens. The brand Twilite also appears in the 31, 32 and 33 year applications. Question - was the Two lite lens referenced in the 1929 year really supposed to be a Twilite lens?

Any input would be welcome.

Gary Rusher, 503-939-9320, or

General Discussion / Re: 1929 verses 1930 frame and 4 cyl engine
« on: February 15, 2010, 05:20:46 AM »
My 30U has the stright cross members, but they aren't welded. They are rivited in place.

I thought mine was a later model as it has fuel pump, water pump and oval rear widow, but the production record show it built between May 25 and June 15 of 1930. They build 30U until June of 1931 so may have had welded or x frmes sometime later.

Just some info.


General Discussion / Re: window channel 29 ply
« on: February 15, 2010, 05:03:37 AM »
Can't say it is correct for your 29, but on my 30U there was a cushion (foam) across the top and channels on the sides. At least that was what was in both the "OLD" parts cars I had.

Think I got my replacement sets from Steele.


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