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General Discussion / Re: cracked exhaust manifold
« on: November 07, 2011, 08:48:54 AM »
Tony, how did things work out after some use?

Your doing such a fine job on this car I was just hoping it went well.

General Discussion / Re: '29 Plymouth Rear Wheel Puller Question
« on: November 06, 2011, 08:08:46 PM »
Yes, the bolt that comes with the TT puller was to short to work on my Plymouth. I just replaced it with one that i had in my parts stuff. You can go to the hardware store and get a replacement whatever length you want.


General Discussion / Re: Exhaust pipe size ?
« on: October 06, 2011, 05:04:20 AM »
Tony, I think the original was 1 1/4" but not available here so most do 1 1/2".


General Discussion / Re: Fuel Pump rebuild
« on: October 06, 2011, 05:02:56 AM »
Hi Guys, Yes I got mine done. But it was not an esay task. I wanted it done ASAP as I had a tour that week end. Overnighted a kit in and took it to Philbin in Portland to get done. Well they didn't get it right and ended up breaking the housing. Got a later model pump from a local guy and replaced the dome and bowl myself to get it on the road. BUT, it works just fine.

I found that I have a local fellow (Portland, OR), Doug Crawford who has Elderly Auto, that has a lot of old Mopar parts, and more reference materials than I could even image. If you need something give him a call at 503-913-5093.

Thanks for everyones thoughts and prayers.

Happy Motoring,


General Discussion / Re: front fenders
« on: October 04, 2011, 07:06:03 AM »
Sorry Rich. I have several different parts books, but nothing close as a raditor for that number.

Happy Motoring, Gary

General Discussion / Re: '29 U Roadster Tires and Rims Question
« on: October 03, 2011, 01:29:01 AM »
Wayne, The Service Bulletin dated January 8, 1929 gives the following:

[b]Model              Body                     Beads & Molding              Stripe[/b]
Roadster                Desert Sand          Pyramid Gray                  Packard Ivory
                             Pyramid Gray        Biscay Green                   Gold Bronze

Touring                  Desert Sand          Pyramid Gray                   Packard Ivory

2 Door Sedan         Desert Sand          Pyramid Gray                   Packard Ivory
                            Moss Agate Green  Ardlsey Green                   Packard Ivory
                            Bolling Green         Black                               Ditzler's Emerald
                            Medium                                                        Green Deep
4 Door Sedan        Bolling Green         Black                                Ditzler's Emerald
                            Medium                                                        Green Deep
                            Marine Blue           Black                                Gold Bronze

Bus. Coupe           Marine Blue            Coach Blue Deep               Moonstone Gray

Deluxe Coupe       Russet Brown          Tabacco Brown                  Primrose Yelloow
                           Norman Gray           Black Ditzler's                   Partridge Cream

These are listed in the POC Judging guides - Group I, pages 20 & 21.

Hope this helps,

Happy Motoring, Gary       

General Discussion / Re: Inner Tubes and Valve Stems
« on: October 01, 2011, 03:24:05 AM »
Didn' know there was anything other than rubber available. Mine are rubber and no one said anything at the 2010 National Meet.


General Discussion / Re: front fenders
« on: October 01, 2011, 03:21:47 AM »
I just do what I can do. I have a few parts books and info, but most is limited to early cars. I hope this is what these sites are for, and that is to share what we have so all can enjoy.


General Discussion / Re: front fenders
« on: September 28, 2011, 07:30:14 AM »
The parts book lists for rear fenders:     Q and U Coupe R-49410

                                                           Q and U Sedan  R-49416

                                                           Q, U, 30-U Touring  R-49406
                                                            Q, U, 30-U Roadster  R-49720

It is interesting to me that they only list these parts as enamel - is that an indication that they were all Black?

Beginning with the 30-U Coupe, Sedan and Roadster they list different part numbers for (prime), (paint), and (enamel).

Just more info. Hope this answers any questions.


General Discussion / Re: '29 U Roadster Tires and Rims Question
« on: September 26, 2011, 03:09:38 AM »
I hope this helps.According to the POC Judging Guide,
Section G. WHEELS;
 1. Only 1930-1933 (30-U-PD) wood wheels may be natural varnished.
 2. Painted wood wheels must have stripe.

In Section F. Paint for the 28 & 29 Q - Plymouth Standard Colors (per Plymouth Club Bulletin Jan-Feb 1994)

Colors per Plymouth Confidential bulletin dated May 21, 1929

Model         Color                       Molding                  Strip                             Wood Wheels              Wire Wheels
Roadster         Ardsley Green         Dundee Gray          Swamp Holly Orange      Arsley Green               Swamp Holly Green
                      Gualda Gray Lt.      Gualda Gray Deep   Mandarin Vermillion        Gualda Gray Deep       Mandarin Vermilion
                      Chrysler Lt. Gray    Cigarette                 Emerald Green              Chrysler Lt Gray          Emerald Green

Touring           Desert Sand            Pyramid Gray          Packard Ivory                Pyramid Gray             Packard Ivory

Coupe             Black                      Black                      Flake White                   Black                         (none listed)
                      Dundee Gray           Ardsley Green         Packard Ivory                Ardsley Green             Cigarette

Deluxe Coupe  Mexican Turquoise   Marquette Blue        Packard Ivory                Marquette Blue            Packard Ivory
                      Thorn Maroon          Chrysler Lt. Gray     Extra Perm. Vermillion    Thorn Maroon             Extra Perm. Vermillion
                      Buckingham Gray    Thorn Maroon          Swamp Holly Green        Thorn Maroon             Swamp Holly Orange

2 Door Sedan  Atkin Gray               Black                      Orange Double Deep      Atkin Gray                  Orange Double Deep
                      Chrysler Lt. Gray     Chrysler Dark Gray   Packard Ivory               Chrysler Dark Gray      Cigarette

4 Door Sedan  Top Gallant Blue      Marquette Blue         Swamp Holly Orange     Marquette Blue            Swamp Holly Orange
                      Marquette Blue        Marquette Blue        Extra Perm. Vermilllion   Marquette Blue           Extra Perm. Vermillion

It would appear from this Bulletin that yes some colored cars did have the wood wheels the same color as the body, but when some colors were used the wheels were a different color.

I have another Service Bulletin dated Jan 8, 1929, which shows a much different list of colors, but it doesn't list the colors for wheels.

Not sure this helps, but that is all I can find right now.


General Discussion / Re: Rear wheel/drum removal - wood spoke wheels - '29
« on: September 25, 2011, 09:21:28 PM »
Hi Ted. This requires a special puller that threads onto the hud and runs a bolt into the axle to push it off. I had trouble on my 30U and ended up getting a puller. The one that I found that fits is for a mole TT truck. I got it from Mac's Antique Auto Parts, try (not cheep). Before I got it I got one wheel loose by taking off the cotter pin out, taking the nut off and removing the washer, then put the nut back on (loosely) and driving the car for a while around some corners. The side thrust on the wheel moved it sideways on the axle and then I could get it off.

Hope this helps.


General Discussion / Re: front fenders
« on: September 25, 2011, 07:23:21 AM »
According to my parts book the Q and the U had the same fenders front fenders. The one without the well is part #306160 - right, with the well is #306752. Left is 306161 w/out well and #306753.

The 30U had a different part number, put that may be only because of the added hole to run the horn wire through. ????

Hope this helps.


General Discussion / Re: '29 U Roadster Tires and Rims Question
« on: September 22, 2011, 06:18:06 AM »
Great looking car.

If I remember correctly the natural finished spokes DO NOT have stripping, only painted wheels.

My car was painted wheels with strips (not shown in this picture) and I powder coated the rims, hubs, and lugs black.

Just my thoughts,

Happy motoring, Gary

General Discussion / Fuel Pump rebuild
« on: September 17, 2011, 05:58:28 AM »
Anyone know someone who is good at rebuilding the fuel pump for the 30U?

Found a couple on the internet, but would like a reference for someone you know about not just an ad.

Thanks, Gary

General Discussion / Re: Rear Spring Hangers
« on: September 17, 2011, 04:22:13 AM »
Glenn, Sorry to be so long to respond back.

Great info and pics.

I was worried about the pins in the chassis as he told me he had beat on them pretty hard and no movement. He thought they were maybe part of the chassis piece and no removable.

We will try some heat and maybe have to drill them out.

Machinist is making new pins with the grease fittings and ways.

Thanks again, Gary

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