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General Discussion / Need Some Advise
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:15:52 AM »
After removing the wood which the previous owner installed I am puzzled about how the front door hinges attach to the car.  Below is a picture of the passenger side area before removing the wood.  Besides the metal brackets there is a steel face piece that I believe goes on over the hinges but maybe this is incorrect.



Here is a picture of the passenger side hinge slots with the wood removed.  It appears that the frame was cut with a hack saw and the previous owner flattened the flange in the hinge area. Maybe because the doors wouldn't align properly.

Can someone please advise or provide pictures of an unmolested hinge mount.



Many Thanks in advance...

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General Discussion / Off on a Tangent
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:50:50 AM »
I was able to get two screws into the broken side of my steering wheel after clamping and gluing the rim into place.  The pictures look really bad but even broken the wheel was actually pretty strong but after getting the two stainless steel screws in place, the wheel is now extremely strong.

I would like to keep this original steering wheel and thought I would find some product that would work well to fill all the wood cracks and then sand the wheel smooth and concentric.  Once this was done I was thinking of fiberglass the rim.

All comments and ideas appreciated.






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General Discussion / Forum members meet
« on: April 24, 2017, 02:59:40 PM »
Hi all, I have been down in Florida visiting with the grand kids and just got back yesterday.  On the drive back I had the pleasure of stopping by Ted's home (racertb), in northern Florida.  My wife and I got a chance to look at Ted's beautiful 29 and his 1950 Plymouth Special Deluxe.  Both cars are in great original condition.  Below is a picture the wife snapped. 

In the picture the old guy on the left is me and Ted is on the right.

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General Discussion / Really need some dimensional help
« on: February 23, 2017, 09:32:59 AM »
Could use another check measurement Please:

Since the roof of my car is off and probably wasn't correct anyway, I would like to install a strip of wood across the top to hold the door frames in their proper position before I tighten down the door pillars.   What I need is:

The distance between the rear doors.  See picture below:
29U 4 door Sedan


Many Thanks,  Chet...

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General Discussion / FYI - Plymouth Heater
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:12:57 PM »
I ran across this image while cleaning out some computer files. 



I think this was on ePay awhile back:



Anybody ever see one of these installed ?

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General Discussion / Some dimensional help needed.
« on: February 10, 2017, 10:57:25 AM »
I have been working on a wood templet from which I will cut my new sill plates.  I have completed the template and I am now looking to confirm my work before cutting the hardwood for the Sills.  Since the Sill member is bolted to the frame in 7 places on both sides I am very confident that my measurements are dead on accurate.  As a quick check I was wondering if someone with a 29U 4 Door sedan could provide the following rear body section width measurement.

I am looking for a ballpark measurement as a check:  From the right bottom edge of the rear door support member steel cap, at the floor to the left side.  See pictures for clarity.  Both rear doors would have to be open so you can measure from outside edge to outside edge.

 

Many Thanks in Advance,  Chet...

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General Discussion / Some dimensional help needed.
« on: January 26, 2017, 04:38:47 PM »
Since nothing of my floor was original I am trying to piece together what was probably there.  The next couple of questions would be a big help.

Question 1:

How much gap is there between the rear body section and the gas tank bracket. 
Measured between the body and the top of the support bracket.



Question 2:  See picture..



Question 3:  It appears that the front section is equidistant from the end of the frame to the firewall.  My question is:  How much gap if any is between the firewall and the front fender assembly.  See picture below.



Many thanks in advance,  Chet...



 

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General Discussion / Need Some Help
« on: January 17, 2017, 12:51:55 PM »
I need some dimensions from a 29U 4 door owner. 

My car is back on the ground after the front end work.  The car is now sitting square left to right which I feel was a major accomplishment for my old car.  However I think the car sits to high in the back and I would like to compare some average measurements from another 29U 4Door sitting on a reasonable level road surface or garage floor.

First:  The height of the Front Bumper assembly Bolt (center of Bolt to Ground)



Second:  The height of the Rear Bumper assembly Bolt (center of Bolt to Ground)
Third:     The distance between the rear shackle pins from center to center.



Many Thanks,  Chet...


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General Discussion / Forum Profile
« on: January 09, 2017, 10:29:48 AM »
A member asked that the Forum Default should show the most recent post on top.  This feature is settable in you personal profile settings:

Modify Profile/Look and Layout/ Check Box – Show most recent post at the top. 


I reset the forum Default for all users to show most recent post on top.  I believe you can still go in and change this if you prefer the opposite. 

Please let me know if there are any issues with this change.  Chet...

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General Discussion / Happy Holidays
« on: December 23, 2016, 10:58:31 AM »

To All.
&
To all a Happy New Year.

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General Discussion / Another Part Question
« on: December 07, 2016, 05:43:36 PM »
Concerning the radiator surround shroud.., I know the front is chromed but what about the square under the radiator cap.  Is this painted the body color or is it suppose to be chrome also?  My current one is painted the same as the car color.  I found a good one to have re-chromed and was just checking concerning the top square which is under the Cap.  Going to the platter next week.

Does this make sense to anyone or do I need to post a picture ?

Chet...

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General Discussion / Part Identification Question
« on: November 27, 2016, 10:40:21 AM »
My car did not have any of the original running boards or molding parts. 

Are the running board moldings pictured below correct for a 1929 Plymouth.  These are reproductions.


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General Discussion / 29 Build Thread
« on: October 26, 2016, 04:42:05 PM »
Well I have put the Title Problem behind me and have now started on the real work.  The Car.

The main issue I have with this car is the rotting internal wood structure and then everything else.  The roof of the car is one slab of plywood so no real body integrity.  My plan is to repair or reframe this car as close to original construction as humanly possible and as well as my carpentry & mechanical skills will allow.  I guess my first step is to get this car on a level plane and assess the workload.

The good news is that my garage floor is in excellent shape for the task at hand.  I jacked the frame up on four identical jack stands.  Even though the floor is perfectly level I did have to raise the back jack stands up one additional notch to get the car on a level plane ?  I am not sure if this is a problem but I think not.  Any comments would be appreciated. 





The body skins are horribly aligned. As an example.., Sitting on the jack stands my driver side door doesn't want to close for a number of reasons including the center post position.  I will be removing all the interior covering to reveal what's left of the original frame.  Will post pictures as the work progresses.

See Below the tip of the iceberg:









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General Discussion / Automobile Blue Book, Vol 3 1921
« on: September 18, 2016, 07:59:51 PM »
The standard road guide of America, Established 1901

I found this book in an antique store.  It is 965+ pages of turn by turn instructions for traveling routes in NJ, PA, MD, DEL,VA, WVA, DC, & surrounding areas including NY City, and the Catskill area.  I have never seen a book like this before.  It’s a great look at the road system in 1921.  I think it would be great fun to research one of these routes that are detailed more by land marks then road names.   Very hard to follow trolley tracks that no longer exist or turn at a business that probably hasn’t been around for the past 90 years.   What a great road trip to travel one of these listed routes and compare the way things have changed and marvel at the things that have not.   Unbelievable amount of information pointing out land marks and points of interest including abstracts of state motor vehicle laws for the Automobilists.  For instance; you needed a license to drive in NYC but not the rest of the state, the license fee was $2.00 with a renewal cost of a dollar in 1921.

Anyone else run across a book like this.  In 1921 there were 10 volumes covering the entire continental US.  Each Vol was priced at $4.00 each.  There was also a ‘T’ vol for long Distance Tours, city to city, coast to coast which was priced at $5.00.  My assumption is that these books were updated for each year.  Need to figure out when they stopped printing them.  Of course the internet knows all so it's time to search the WWW...

UPDATE:

The Official Automobile Blue Book, 1901–1929: Precursor to the American Road Map
John T. Bauer

Abstract

Navigating by automobile at the dawn of the twentieth century was difficult because maps appropriate for this new mode of transportation were scarce. An early solution to this problem was the route guide. Listing turn-by-turn directions between various cities, route guides helped early motorists navigate a network of unmarked, local roads. This paper focuses exclusively on the Official Automobile Blue Book, the earliest and most popular of the route guides. It contends that the Blue Book series was a precursor to the American road map because the volumes served two important functions of road maps and did so before road mapping matured into a full-fledged cartographic business. The Blue Book commercialized automobile touring and provided directional information, helping motorists navigate. Twelve Blue Book volumes, covering 1901 to 1929, form the primary sources for this research. After examining the series’ use, content, and history, the paper places the Official Automobile Blue Book within the larger context of the history of road mapping.

Cheers Chet…

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General Discussion / Restoration Begins
« on: September 15, 2016, 04:38:23 PM »
Well I am finally starting my 29 restoration.  The car has been sitting for a couple of years.  Since we retired to Delaware I still haven't titled the car because I have to bring it down to the Motor Vehicles to have it physically inspected.  I guess they need to see it at least once, to verify that it exists.  Anyway I would need to trailer it down and since my car trailer needs to go in for an inspection I will take the 29 along and get it titled and registered.
 
Of course there is always a problem.  I hope to change the Title info to reflect the proper year.  The car was registered as a 1928 Model U Plymouth under the Body Number.  I will not try to change the VIN Number but will try to change the date to reflect the actual correct year.  1929 Model U.  Wish me luck.  How do I explain to the DMV that the car was incorrectly titled in Florida where I purchased it.  I correct the Q to U when I titled it in VA.  So I hope to correct the Year next week.  I had this plate made up for the car to reflect the correct INFO for the DMV and at the same time reflect the proper Fedco Number.  The cost was $42.00.



After at least 3 years of inactivity the old girl fired up without any issues.  My car needs a lot of work to bring her back to a reasonable example of an original 1929 Plymouth.  I plan to keep the old interior but redo the internal wooden frame, roof, and floor and everything else that was incorrectly repaired.  The old girl has been molested by many well intentioned owners but it's time to try and get her back to a reasonable facsimile of original condition and save as much of the original patina as possible.   I am not looking to create a factory fresh car but a correct car that shows its 80 years of existence.  Once we jump through the DMV hoop then on to a more interesting agenda. 
 


Wish me luck I'll keep you guys posted on my progress in this thread.

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