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General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 19, 2017, 04:41:25 PM »

The Elmer's "Damaged Wood" repair system was awesome !! Once the two part putty was mixed together it worked like plumber's putty and stayed soft for quite awhile.  The directions say 1 hour.  You get a lot of putty for the money and I think I only used 15% to repair my badly damaged steering wheel.  The color of the dried epoxy is yellow pine.

Below are the results.  I will try a stain on the wheel first. to see how it looks.  It sanded as smooth as a baby's butt.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 19, 2017, 04:25:08 PM »
It sure looks that way.  Was the inside body metal painted or just primed?  Could the interior be painted black primer? Everything was painted, wood and metal.  My car has a new interior but untouched mechanics.


The untouched rear internal section of my car's metal skin was rusted.  I would assume that when manufactured something was painted on the metal to help protect it from rust.  Below is a picture before I started my work.

PS... I didn't worry about matching colors of paint and stain.  Like John said.., nobody will ever see the work I am doing to the wood framing once the interior is reinstalled.  I am however trying to duplicate the framing as close as possible to the original, without the assistance of the original technical drawings.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 18, 2017, 02:09:15 PM »
Was the orginial wood stained?


Since you first asked this question I have been thinking more on the subject.  I started today working on the rear window frame pieces and kept thinking about your question.  I believe the internal wood frame members were originally stained with a dark to black stain or light flat paint.  See pictures below to corroborate what I just stated.  These upper rear window frame pieces were original to the car.  The color of the wood facing the metal skins is the same as the wood facing the interior of the car.

The inside joint shows lighter wood than the exterior surface and on the piece to the right the original color of my car which was Meridian Blue.

I don't think it was age that colored the wood.  I think it was originally painted or stained.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 15, 2017, 07:39:24 AM »
Was the orginial wood stained?

Rusty, I couldnít say for sure whether or not my car's original wood was treated with stain or anything else.   I have seen other more unmolested versions of the 28/29 roof assembly and it didnít appear that the roof structure was treated with anything except normal weathering.  All I can say about my car is that the body structure wood that was original to my car was blackened quite possibly by age.  Drilling into the old wood also produced darkened wood particles.   Not quite as dark but dark.  Age and a great deal of moisture might account for the blackened color (mold).  I really couldn't say. ?

PS... Take a look at Dave's resto thread.  His roof wood pictures show a mixed bag including body color, dark wood, and weathering. 

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 14, 2017, 11:32:36 AM »
Rear Frame & Lower Window Assembly

I posted a link below to the blow by blow description.

General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 13, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »
Thanks all for the info.  The weather here is pretty lousy today so I might take a look in the Marine Stores for a possible solution.  I want to find something that won't have a negative chemical reaction to a fiberglass coating.  Just in case I go that route.  I will check out the large box hardware suppliers and get a read on the Elmer's Damaged Wood Repair system John mentioned.   If I can sand it and stain it that would be a big plus.


General Discussion / Off on a Tangent
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:50:50 AM »
I was able to get two screws into the broken side of my steering wheel after clamping and gluing the rim into place.  The pictures look really bad but even broken the wheel was actually pretty strong but after getting the two stainless steel screws in place, the wheel is now extremely strong.

I would like to keep this original steering wheel and thought I would find some product that would work well to fill all the wood cracks and then sand the wheel smooth and concentric.  Once this was done I was thinking of fiberglass the rim.

All comments and ideas appreciated.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 07, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »
Passenger Side Hinge Pillar

With the complicated work of creating the left & right side sill plates and also the rear cross sill behind me.  I completed the construction of the passenger side hinge pillar.  Basically I reversed everything I did to the driver's side and applied it to the passenger side.

Once all the wood was positioned properly I squared off the rear body assembly.  Using dimensions I calculated and verified with actual measurements from forum member <29UJohn> who also has a 1929 Plymouth 4 door sedan.  I bolted everything down.

The strength of this rear section is now comparable to a newly constructed car.   I will move on to new work like  rebuilding the rear seat frame assembly and rear window frame which will add even more strength to the rear section of my old car.

Cheers,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Dave's 1929 U Resto project
« on: May 03, 2017, 11:39:38 PM »

Sounds great Dave,  I think you made the right choice.  Please post more info once you get the harness.

Many thanks, Chet...

PS... Do I have the info correct:

 YnZs Yesterdays Parts
 333 E. Stuart Ave. Unit A
 Redlands, CA 92374

General Discussion / Re: Forum members meet
« on: May 02, 2017, 04:33:59 PM »
Hay Dave, that would be great.  The wife and I were thinking about doing a cross country trip.  We have family on the left coast, in California and always wanted to see the Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, and thirty other places.  Maybe around 2018.

General Discussion / Re: Dave's 1929 U Resto project
« on: May 02, 2017, 04:21:13 PM »
Dave, let us know what you think of the wire harness.  I need to order one for my car but I am just not there yet.  Do they give you the option for adding wiring for turn signals?

General Discussion / Forum members meet
« on: April 24, 2017, 02:59:40 PM »
Hi all, I have been down in Florida visiting with the grand kids and just got back yesterday.  On the drive back I had the pleasure of stopping by Ted's home (racertb), in northern Florida.  My wife and I got a chance to look at Ted's beautiful 29 and his 1950 Plymouth Special Deluxe.  Both cars are in great original condition.  Below is a picture the wife snapped. 

In the picture the old guy on the left is me and Ted is on the right.

General Discussion / Re: vacuum tank float setting - 28 Q
« on: March 29, 2017, 02:21:50 PM »
Back early this afternoon.

Frank, Thanks for the Info.  That's what I thought but couldn't say for sure.


I am currently restoring the wood framing so my car is out of service for probably the next year or two.  If I can find the time to pop the top canister out I will.  I will try to get back into the garage if I don't have to show up in court tomorrow.  Fingers crossed, 


Frank was right on with the diameter.  The Diameter is 1.5" and the overall total length of both cork pieces is 2.750" (2 and 3/4")  See the pictures below for alignment.

FYI... The weight of the cork pieces is what closes the trapdoor.  I think this is your problem.

Cheers,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: vacuum tank float setting - 28 Q
« on: March 28, 2017, 05:03:11 PM »
chetbrz - is that photo of an original tank or one that is repaired?  Reason I ask is that the one I took apart did not have anywhere near that amount of cork for a float unit.  If they were that large it explains a lot of my problem as my brass float is not nearly that large..Could I get a measurement fo the float assembly if possible?  (height and dia)    Thanks in advance.....

Is your tank identical to the one pictured in the previous post.  This is for a 29U Plymouth.  Also It has an esthetic level of restoration.  The internals were not touched.  Just the exterior.

I haven't taken it apart.  The picture was from a couple years back.  Jury Duty for the rest of the week & next.

Sorry,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: vacuum tank float setting - 28 Q
« on: March 28, 2017, 08:52:58 AM »
Kokomo Indiana - Model 39-0
Date#   5 / 30
JAN 18, 1921 - AUG 1, 1922
APR 7, 1922 - JAN 22, 1924

I hope this helps.  Chet...

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