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General Discussion / Re: 29 Windshield Removal Article
« on: June 10, 2017, 10:30:43 AM »
Hi Frank,

If you are removing your windshield I would be interested of any pictures of the body and framing that you might uncover in this task.  I am in the process of trying to figure out how the wood structure supports the front cowl. 


General Discussion / Re: 1928 engine rebuild help
« on: June 10, 2017, 10:26:34 AM »
Hi Joe & welcome to this forum.

As I stated in an email I am not familiar with the Maxwell Q engine.  I would think that as far as a rear seal is concerned.  If there was one this item may not be packaged in the engine kit and it might need to be ordered separately.  I checked the master parts list and did not find a reference to a rear bearing oil seal however I did find a reference to this part for the model U through PD.  <Group 9D page 122>

I hope someone else will be able to be more help.


General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: June 03, 2017, 06:42:31 PM »
Chet - this looks great...I checked out the link too...nice work.

Thanks Ted,

I hope you are enjoying your cars, the weather here finally hit a homerun today.  Melissa & I took the 48 out for a ride and wound up at a local car show.  We checked out the cars, had some lunch, and than continued on our drive.  Unfortunately after about 3 hours at a car show I start to get antsy so back on the road.  We did about 120 miles and ended up in an outdoor restaurant on the water near the beach.  A good day by all standards.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: June 02, 2017, 02:02:08 PM »
Rear Window Frame & Upper Cross Member

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

General Discussion / Re: Dave's 1929 U Resto project
« on: May 29, 2017, 09:30:59 AM »
You know Dave I have to make every single piece of that same roof and I have no original wood to go by, nothing but pictures.  Do you have any pictures of the interior front & rear without the headliner in place.

If you were up to it I might have to make a trip out your way to do a little research.  It might be beneficial to both of us.

General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 25, 2017, 09:20:00 AM »
Nice Chet!  Just remember this is not a high falutin Chrysler!

LOL.., Don't worry Frank we are a long way away from high anything.  :)

General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:05:42 PM »
Looks good!  Would like to see finished wheel and wonder how much stain it will take.  If you recall, my wheel is painted black...not sure if correct or not.


Hi Ted,

I'm pretty sure that black was the color of the steering wheel.  I had some Bombay Mahogany Stain & Polyurethane lying around the garage so I used it just to see how it would look.  I can always sand and paint over the stain.  Below are the results.  The flash makes it appear lighter in regular dull light it looks almost black.  I had a black steering wheel cover that I will most likely replace.

I'm just glad it's in one piece and usable.   200% better than it was with the proper amount of distress for an 80 year old.

General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 19, 2017, 04:41:25 PM »

The Elmer's "Damaged Wood" repair system was awesome !! Once the two part putty was mixed together it worked like plumber's putty and stayed soft for quite awhile.  The directions say 1 hour.  You get a lot of putty for the money and I think I only used 15% to repair my badly damaged steering wheel.  The color of the dried epoxy is yellow pine.

Below are the results.  I will try a stain on the wheel first. to see how it looks.  It sanded as smooth as a baby's butt.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 19, 2017, 04:25:08 PM »
It sure looks that way.  Was the inside body metal painted or just primed?  Could the interior be painted black primer? Everything was painted, wood and metal.  My car has a new interior but untouched mechanics.


The untouched rear internal section of my car's metal skin was rusted.  I would assume that when manufactured something was painted on the metal to help protect it from rust.  Below is a picture before I started my work.

PS... I didn't worry about matching colors of paint and stain.  Like John said.., nobody will ever see the work I am doing to the wood framing once the interior is reinstalled.  I am however trying to duplicate the framing as close as possible to the original, without the assistance of the original technical drawings.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 18, 2017, 02:09:15 PM »
Was the orginial wood stained?


Since you first asked this question I have been thinking more on the subject.  I started today working on the rear window frame pieces and kept thinking about your question.  I believe the internal wood frame members were originally stained with a dark to black stain or light flat paint.  See pictures below to corroborate what I just stated.  These upper rear window frame pieces were original to the car.  The color of the wood facing the metal skins is the same as the wood facing the interior of the car.

The inside joint shows lighter wood than the exterior surface and on the piece to the right the original color of my car which was Meridian Blue.

I don't think it was age that colored the wood.  I think it was originally painted or stained.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 15, 2017, 07:39:24 AM »
Was the orginial wood stained?

Rusty, I couldnít say for sure whether or not my car's original wood was treated with stain or anything else.   I have seen other more unmolested versions of the 28/29 roof assembly and it didnít appear that the roof structure was treated with anything except normal weathering.  All I can say about my car is that the body structure wood that was original to my car was blackened quite possibly by age.  Drilling into the old wood also produced darkened wood particles.   Not quite as dark but dark.  Age and a great deal of moisture might account for the blackened color (mold).  I really couldn't say. ?

PS... Take a look at Dave's resto thread.  His roof wood pictures show a mixed bag including body color, dark wood, and weathering. 

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 14, 2017, 11:32:36 AM »
Rear Frame & Lower Window Assembly

I posted a link below to the blow by blow description.

General Discussion / Re: Off on a Tangent
« on: May 13, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »
Thanks all for the info.  The weather here is pretty lousy today so I might take a look in the Marine Stores for a possible solution.  I want to find something that won't have a negative chemical reaction to a fiberglass coating.  Just in case I go that route.  I will check out the large box hardware suppliers and get a read on the Elmer's Damaged Wood Repair system John mentioned.   If I can sand it and stain it that would be a big plus.


General Discussion / Off on a Tangent
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:50:50 AM »
I was able to get two screws into the broken side of my steering wheel after clamping and gluing the rim into place.  The pictures look really bad but even broken the wheel was actually pretty strong but after getting the two stainless steel screws in place, the wheel is now extremely strong.

I would like to keep this original steering wheel and thought I would find some product that would work well to fill all the wood cracks and then sand the wheel smooth and concentric.  Once this was done I was thinking of fiberglass the rim.

All comments and ideas appreciated.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread
« on: May 07, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »
Passenger Side Hinge Pillar

With the complicated work of creating the left & right side sill plates and also the rear cross sill behind me.  I completed the construction of the passenger side hinge pillar.  Basically I reversed everything I did to the driver's side and applied it to the passenger side.

Once all the wood was positioned properly I squared off the rear body assembly.  Using dimensions I calculated and verified with actual measurements from forum member <29UJohn> who also has a 1929 Plymouth 4 door sedan.  I bolted everything down.

The strength of this rear section is now comparable to a newly constructed car.   I will move on to new work like  rebuilding the rear seat frame assembly and rear window frame which will add even more strength to the rear section of my old car.

Cheers,  Chet...

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