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General Discussion / Founding Member Status
« on: February 12, 2008, 03:06:09 PM »
On March 4th this Web Forum will start its second year.   As a tribute to those who have been active posters in the first year of this Forum, I will be creating a New Member Status equal to “Founding Member” The changes will be made starting now and completing no later then March 4th.

Qualification for “Founding Member” status:

Member must have been a member for 30 days prior to March 4th 2008.
Member will have achieved Full Member Status by March 4th 2008.
Member has been active in the past 90 days prior to March 4th 2008.

This unique member status will remain in affect as long as this Forum is in operation as a tribute to those who helped make this first year a success.  My sincere thanks to all participating members who are helping to make this a place to share information concerning our unique cars.

Keep them rolling,        Chet…


This forum was created for the 1928 Model Q, 1929 Model U, and 1930-U Plymouths.  Chrysler, Dodge, & DeSoto 1924 to 1930 are also welcome.  These early Plymouths and Chryslers are very similar in construction with many similarities in parts.  Actually after 75+ years.., any year noted could contain any combination or mixture of parts.   Since there are not a whole lot of these models around with even fewer experts on their repair and maintenance, I thought that having a place to share issues, problems, and practical information about these cars would be a big help.

This forum is FREE and has no opinion on how you modify your car and has no affiliation with an organized antique car club.  The purpose here is to freely share information and maintenance tips about these early Plymouths & Chryslers.  Keeping these wonderful and extraordinary cars running is this web site’s first priority.  You alone are left to be the judge of your car.

General Discussion / 29 U Running Board Update
« on: February 03, 2008, 04:47:18 PM »

I started work today on my running board refurbishment project.

see link below for the blow by blow

Happy Super Bowl Sunday...

Cheers Chet

General Discussion / 29 U Running Boards Question
« on: February 02, 2008, 08:23:20 PM »

Can anybody tell me what was the original thickness of the running boards on the 29 U.  I am in the process of redoing them and I want to get it perfect.  I think it goes to the style and lines of the car.

Tks,  Chet...

General Discussion / 29 U Gas Tank Redo.. Oh! My...
« on: January 13, 2008, 04:08:15 PM »
The gas tank in my 29 has been giving me trouble since I bought the car, so this weekend.., out it came.  It has a number of issues but it is still pretty solid after all these years.  A little body solder and a good interior gas tank paint should do the trick.  I would also like to find the tank gauge that was originally used.  I would be interested in one that was in any condition so that I could fabricate the parts to make it work again.  If anybody can help.., it would be appreciated, even another complete tank with all the appropriate parts if it is in a restorable condition.

I am looking for a Gauge, Float & Cap assembly Plymouth part number 42666 or 300539.  This is the listing the Plymouth Master Parts List gives for a Model U prior to RS-400-L.  My car is RY-888-W.

I don’t think this setup was unique to only Plymouths.  Does anybody have any info on this part or does anybody sell reproductions.

Tks,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Inside door handles.
« on: January 10, 2008, 06:27:10 PM »
I believe they pop up on eBay pretty regularly.  Keep checking in and you will probably run across them.

Search using string...     192* Plymouth


General Discussion / Re: Another Plymouth down under.
« on: January 03, 2008, 09:47:31 AM »
Hi Gary & Welcome,

You certainly bought a very interesting and rare old car.  I believe the Detroit plant ran 2 side by side production lines.  Below is my best guess.

Total Production of the 28Q was approximately 67,482 cars.
Your Serial Number = HDO14L   translated =  390,147

First production line run start = HL950P translated = 379,501  End = HD999D translated = 399,999
Second production line run start = RW000P translated = 400,001  End = RH997H translated =  439,973

First production line Detroit total cars built = 20,498  Your car being # 10,646.
Second production line Detroit cars built = 39,972
Windsor Canada built approximately = 7,012

Other places on the Web for early Plymouths:

Plymouth Owners Club Forum:
First Decade Plymouths:


General Discussion / Re: Seasons Greetings to All
« on: December 27, 2007, 06:10:08 PM »
I am pondering putting my gas tank back in my 30u.  I noticed th parts book has listed  an "anti-squeak (liner) and an anti-squeak (to the rear crossmember lining).  What would these parts be??  I'm certain they were not in the car when I removed the tank.  ( only two weeks ago)

Thanks for all the help.  Jim g


My guess would be a strip of 1/8” rubber between the gas tank straps and the tank.  Probably between the top frame & tank and the bottom strap and the tank.  This is just my best guess.


General Discussion / Seasons Greetings to All
« on: December 25, 2007, 09:47:22 AM »
Remember keep those old cars running and don’t forget to check in and tell us how you did it.

Merry Christmas.!!! 


Happy New Driving Year to All.!!!


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 06:22:50 PM »

Here is the info you need.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 04:00:05 PM »
I understand,someone has taken the fittings off the tank.I guess i will hook It up and if it doesn't work i will switch the lines around. thanks again


I will check tonight.  I could tell you which is which by taking a picture of the top looking at the fill vent.   I will also check because the gas inlet might have a ball bearing check valve built in to keep gas from flowing back into the gas line.

I’ll let you know tomorrow.


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 12:43:14 PM »

I am pretty sure that for the model 39 Kingston Pump the female elbow (inside thread) is the vacuum side and the outside threaded elbow is the gas side.

See diagram below…

Mr. Old Plymouths is correct.  Fix all leaks, the canister gasket, and ensure that the float is in good shape and you have a repaired Vacuum Gas Pump.  A little exterior paint will make it nice.


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 19, 2007, 05:03:38 PM »

Here is a picture of mine. 

KINGSTON PRODUCTS CORP  Kokomo Indiana  -  Model 39
Date#   5 / 30
JAN 18, 1921    -    AUG 1, 1922
APR  7, 1922    -    JAN 22, 1924

To repair.

  • Fix All leaks.
  • Ensure that the float is in good shape.
  • Make & Replace the top can gasket.

The way it works is engine vacuum sucks the gas into the top chamber.  When there is sufficient gas to raise the float.   The bottom port opens and dumps the gas into the bottom half of the vacuum canister.  From here it is gravity feed into the carburetor.

Very simple and effective.


Hello Eric,

Welcome to this group.  When you get a chance maybe post a little info like what type of car you have and if a picture is possible please feel free to post one.

Tks again,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: 1929-30 PLYMOUTH SPEC. SHEET PDF file
« on: December 16, 2007, 09:14:04 AM »

Tks for posting, Good info...   Chet

General Discussion / Re: BE A VOLTAGE REGULATOR PRO page 2
« on: December 11, 2007, 12:48:50 PM »

If you like you can email me the scan files and I will put the two pages up as viewable & downloadable pdf files.


PS... When I get a chance I will increase the allowable picture size for the forum.

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