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General Discussion / Re: Got my engine running
« on: October 26, 2007, 10:05:12 AM »
I had the same problem with gas peeing out of the carburetor.  I removed the 4/5 psi fuel pump and put in a 2 psi Max fuel pump and the problem seems to be fixed.  The old carbs were designed to be gravity fed so they don’t hold up well under a lot of pressure.

I will find the fan belt over the weekend and get it out to you.  Don’t discard the Vacuum Fuel pump Canister you may want to go back to original someday.   I am working on hooking up this item as a dummy and still utilize the electric pump.  Of course no original parts will be harmed by my experiments.


General Discussion / Re: Got my engine running
« on: October 25, 2007, 05:56:50 PM »
PS,  ski,

I have a NOS fan belt laying around here someplace.  I put in an alternator so you can have the fan belt if you want it.  Email your address and I will send it to you.



General Discussion / Re: Got my engine running
« on: October 25, 2007, 05:52:18 PM »

That’s a great feeling firing up an engine for the first time or after a major problem.  Have you had the car for awhile or is this the first time running under its own power.  Either way congrads…. !!!!

When I fired up my 48 up after years of non use the feeling was great.  This is only countered by the feeling experienced by the first drive in your antique ride.

Life doesn’t get much better then this.  Thanks for sharing.


General Discussion / Re: It's Time......
« on: October 21, 2007, 07:42:57 PM »

Do you have inside storage or do they get covered up for the winter.   You know Dave you are not that far away from me.  Maybe next summer I might take a run up your way and say hello.  I drive up to NYC about a dozen times a year.  Half the time I go through Harrisburg and take 78 into Newark, NJ. 

I went to Hershey this year for the first time.  It was actually overwhelming.  Too many venders and not enough time.  Next year I will make sure I cut out at minimum two days for walking around and will be better prepared as far as what I am looking for. 

I hooked up with Patrick (30 Ply 30U) from the POC board and got to put a face with the online handle.   He was with friends from LaPorte, Indiana.  I think he was there most of the week.  I found the main thing I was looking for and found some other things I wasn’t looking for., but took them home anyway. 

Well if the winter snows pile up, keep in touch.  The next best think to driving these old cars is talking about driving them.

Cheers,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: It's Time......
« on: October 21, 2007, 10:33:48 AM »
Sorry to hear that.  Today the weather man says the temperature here in Northern VA is going up to 80 this afternoon.  Kind-a unusual for a mid October day.  As far as I am concern as long as the ground is snow free I will be motoring about.  Although after this dry summer I suspect we will have a harsh winter.  If we don't, we may be in trouble regarding water supplies in the Northeast but especially the southern region.  Oh. Well.!! Plenty of stuff to do over the winter to get ready for the spring. 


General Discussion / Another Great Weekend
« on: October 07, 2007, 06:05:29 PM »
It is October and the weather here in Virginia is 90 degrees at 5:00 PM with clear blue skies.   I took the 29-U out for a spin and turned 300 miles on the odometer since I brought her home last year.  She is getting to be a regular driver in that the last couple of times I took her out I didn’t have to fix anything.  Ya.!!!   Actually on my adventure today I forgot to take the usual tool bag and didn’t even give it a second thought.

Well my winter project besides the restoration work I am doing to my 48 Plymouth Special Deluxe is to respoke the wheels on the 29. 

I plan on providing a step by step description of what I will be doing including diagrams and pictures.  It costs somewhere in the $300 to $400 dollar bracket per wheel to have someone do this.  Most of the cost is labor so I think I can accomplish this for about $75 to $100 dollars per wheel.  Including the tools purchased.

I installed a spindle duplicating device on the wood lathe I purchased from another car buddy.  Cost $40 plus the duplicating device which was $150.  So I am into this at the moment for about $190 which is less then the cost for one wheel.

The wood is Kiln Dried Hickory and can be purchased form a couple of Pennsylvania wood shops cut to size and planed square.


General Discussion / Getting Back to Origional...
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:38:22 PM »
Well I got the vacuum fuel canister apart.  It appears to be in pretty good shape.  There is one pin hole in the bottom of the exterior canister but that is easy to repair.  I did break the sediment bowl trying to remove it.  The casting just disintegrated.   O! well no pain no gain.  The device cleaned up real well especially after sitting in the parts washer for a couple of days.  It will be fun getting this old technology working again.  Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


Kokomo Indiana  -  Model 39
Date Code   5 / 30
JAN 18, 1921    -    AUG 1, 1922
APR  7, 1922    -    JAN 22, 1924

General Discussion / Anyone going to Hershey
« on: September 24, 2007, 06:36:39 PM »
I am driving up for the Saturday Fly market (Oct 13).  I would like meeting and having a beer or coke with any member of this forum.


General Discussion / Re: Wood kits?
« on: September 18, 2007, 04:58:24 PM »
Thanks Carlton,

I am very interested in anyone who is venturing into this area.  Car guys tend to shy away from wood work.  Personally I find it easier to work with wood then steel.  I am very interested in what you are doing so please post pictures when you have the time.

Good luck with this project.  It may take some time but the end result will be well worth the time and effort.


General Discussion / Sun Visor Repair on the 29-U
« on: September 09, 2007, 05:09:40 PM »
I got around to fixing the poor job the previous owner of my car did on the sun visor.  Below is the before picture.

Not even close to what it should look like.  I removed the sun visor and incorrectly mounted wood piece.

I picked up a nice piece of 3/4 by 1.75" oak in Home Depot and cut and shaped it to mount under the roof material.

A little batting and reaffixed the roof material.

The picture below is the result of my work.  Not perfect but I think much better.


General Discussion / Re: Wood kits?
« on: September 03, 2007, 10:19:22 PM »
If you find someone who has wood kits I would certainly be interested.   When my 48 is completed I will be retiring the 29 to restore the wood framing.   I like working with wood so the project would be fun for me but having an original assembly drawing of the 29 Plymouth would be a big help.  If you find any information on the body substructure please drop me an email.


General Discussion / Re: Body number?
« on: August 27, 2007, 07:36:17 AM »
The actual manufacturing number is in the center of the dashboard in the oval Medallion.  There is a FedCo system VIN number. 

See the link to Tod Fitch’s website, which explains VIN numbers:

I don’t understand what the insurance company is requesting.  A title and a visual inspection should be all they need.  Actually for liability only GICO insured my 29 sight on seen for $11.00 per month.  I am told an Antique car insurance company would give full coverage fire & theft for about the same amount.


General Discussion / Re: POSITIVE GROUND?
« on: August 26, 2007, 08:11:57 AM »
If you had water in your gas you may most likely have rust in your tank.  I don't know how long the water has been in there but if it has been sitting for awhile you may have clean the tank and coat it with a gas tank paint. 

Here is a link to what I did with my 48 P15 tank.  Some guys use chain instead of gravel.

As far as a cap you need to use a vented cap or in my case just a loose fitting cap.  If not you will build pressure in the tank and on a hot day the pressure will force two much gas to the carburetor.  Also you can collapse the tank if you have a good electric fuel pump.  I also use an electric fuel pump.  It is rated at a maximum pressure of 2 psi.  I had a 4-5 psi pump and it forced two much gas into the carburetor and caused it to pour out the front. 

I am glad the wiring diagram helped you.


General Discussion / Re: POSITIVE GROUND?
« on: August 25, 2007, 10:28:21 PM »
The car had cranked and I was getting spark to the points and the head lights worked. Would it still do that if the battery had been hooked up wrong?  I don't want to fry anthing when I hook the battery back up.  Any advice?


Reversing the polarity of the 29 would still allow the lights, horn and starter to crank.  You may have a problem with the distributor in that it is the only device in the car that would be polarity sensitive.

You are correct in that this car was originally Positive Ground.  It could be wired as negative ground if the distributor coil was changed or if the coil wiring was reversed.  My car does not have an original distributor so I can't give you any advice as to what to look for.

See original wiring diagram:


General Discussion / Re: 29 wheel puller
« on: August 25, 2007, 09:08:25 AM »

If you go to the link below, this was a post I started on the POC Forum.  It has a lot of info on the subject.

If I can't find one at Hershey this year I am going to have a friend make one for me.  He is a machinist by hobby and a mechanical engineer by profession.  I am pretty sure I will find one at Hershey.  I am told that the Ford modal A used the same threads on their axel but I don’t know for sure or if the Model T will work as a substitute.   

Good Luck,


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