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General Discussion / Re: Sill or Chassis rail dimensions 1929 Plymouth U
« on: January 17, 2018, 02:30:03 AM »
Thanks Geoff,

I could have used this info 9 months ago but better late than never.  I will move these documents into the Tech Area if you don't mind.


General Discussion / Re: engine bay splash pans....
« on: January 15, 2018, 07:22:14 PM »
Kim & Tom,

I traced the front pan support.  The pictures below illustrate how I traced it.  The flat length of the material would be 17" long 16 gauge steel by 4.5"wide (actual measured 4 7/16" wide)

If you want I can make copies of the 8.5 x 14 document and send it to you.  Just email me your address.

If you can print an 8.5 X 14" document download the attached pdf file

General Discussion / Re: Radiator Emblem
« on: January 11, 2018, 04:19:30 AM »
I posted a picture of a radiator emblem I rechromed using a hobby kit.  It is on the off-site photo page.  Unfortunately the emblem's curve di not match my radiator shell, it was too flat and looke bad on the shell, so I din't use it.

(I could not figure out how to take the picture so that the file size would be small enough to load here.)


If you are using a windows based system right click on the Gallery image and go to properties and copy the image link.  Then click on the insert image icon (binoculars) in the forum "Post reply form" which is the first icon on the second line.  This action will insert the following code in your text {img][/img] Past your link in-between the image brackets.
{img]PAST LINK HERE[/img]   example:  {img][/img]

Larger image:


General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« on: January 11, 2018, 02:54:02 AM »
Now that's pretty.  How much of the babbitt will be used again?

In talking to John the builder.., he said everything new.  I know for sure they will redo all the babbitts (Their specialty).  New rings & pistons.  I will ask him for all the old parts since he said the pistons were the original correct size.  I didn't plan on any performance touch ups. Stock.


General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« on: January 10, 2018, 06:18:30 PM »

29U Engine Refurbishment Update:

All engine parts have been cleaned and crack checked.  NO Cracks in either Head or Block.!!!

Link to all engine progress pictures at J&M Machine.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:38:19 PM »
Frankís correct please do post pictures.


General Discussion / Re: Firewall Tag
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:36:13 PM »
That plate looks very good.  I was able to clean mine up but might also see if these are still for sale.

Good to know.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« on: January 02, 2018, 03:58:06 AM »

This is Great News Dave,

I had already painted the firewall black and being that the Dash was originally black.., this means that I can install the wiring harness and motor without painting the entire car now.  I can leave the body painting for a later date.  GREAT NEWS....

Back to my original plan.  :)  8)

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« on: January 02, 2018, 12:02:53 AM »
Well New Year / Change of Plan

After reviewing where I am going with this project it's clear that my old car needs to be completely repainted.  Since the car is totally stripped down now I have to switch gears and decide on a body color that is in the very least close to an original color.  I thought Black which is easy and non controversial but then the original color of my car was the lighter Blue.  I would guess Marine Blue.   I can't start assembling things including installing the wire harness if I will be painting the car at a later date.  Easier to paint now then start installing items for the last time.

Need Guidance:
  • Firewall painted same as body
  • In a two tone car lets say Blue Body with Black trim & Black fenders
  • Dashboard Question ?  What color
  • Window Trim Metal ?  What color
  • Holding down costs / paint myself / find a cost affective solution
Any words of wisdom ??  The old paint on the 29 is very stable.  The red paint that has been on the car for over 10 years and is in perfect shape.  Maybe an easy repaint.  ?  Maybe Maaco ?

Costs are piling up with the complete engine rebuild, new suspension all around, refurbished starter & generator and not yet re-chromed surround and bumpers, interior seats, roof, and items I haven't considered yet.   Need to save someplace any suggestions.  The upholstery I can do myself although I might have someone do the exterior roof ??

Any comments ?   Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Damaged flywheel on 1929 "U"
« on: December 31, 2017, 12:00:27 AM »
Chet - got to be the Fun - it shore ain't the Money!    frank

Copy that.

General Discussion / Re: Damaged flywheel on 1929 "U"
« on: December 30, 2017, 10:11:33 PM »

All this hoo-ha said, do the flywheels/ring gears have the part number on them for identification?  How could you positively identify the e-bay flywheel?

Aren't these fun??

Frank,  THAT IS THE QUESTION ?  Neil might inquire to the seller what car or engine it came from.  Anything other than an early 29U might make it a #74455.  Ring gear U after Y-204-PP engine #U-89290 All US built, 30U, PA

Might also depend on which starter he has.  Who knows what these cars have in them after 80+ years of repairs.  Could be any combination now.  Maybe Ed Sapp can add some additional wisdom concerning the flywheel. 

Fun is an interesting description,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Damaged flywheel on 1929 "U"
« on: December 30, 2017, 06:08:57 PM »
I believe you might find this article by Edwin Sapp on his starter problem very interesting in determining the proper starter ring for the 29-U

Please see attached:

General Discussion / Re: Damaged flywheel on 1929 "U"
« on: December 27, 2017, 05:32:04 PM »
Hi Neil,

I have not had to have this done but it appears that Frank might have found a replacement flywheel on eBay.  I would think that the original part could be ground and a new ring attached but it might be less expensive if you could find a suitable replacement part.  The 29 block was used for a number of years and I suspect that the flywheel didnít changed much.  According to the Plymouth Master Parts List 28-33 both the Q & U had ring gears.

Ring gear Q    Part# 319916
Ring gear U up to Y-201-PP US Built and All Canadian built   Part# 303039
Ring gear U after Y-204-PP engine #U-89290 All US built, 30U, PA  Part# 74455

I donít know why there were differences in the Ring Gear.  Form and fit might be different but I would suspect that function would be the same ???  Just my uninformed opinion. 

Have you talked to a good machine shop ?

Good luck ChetÖ

General Discussion / Re: Does Anyone know...
« on: December 27, 2017, 04:34:13 PM »
Thanks for the info.


General Discussion / Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays
« on: December 23, 2017, 03:56:27 PM »

To All !!!

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