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General Discussion / Re: Cheers
« on: June 18, 2010, 05:47:35 PM »
This is what I can gather from my notes.  I measured an original 29 roof at a recent POC meet in Maryland.  Unfortunately I scribbled the info down and hadn't looked at it since but this is what I can definitively tell you:

There are 15 Slats and 9 Bows

15 Slats @ ¼” x 1 ¾ “ x Length needed. 

  9 Bows @ ½” x 7/8” x Length needed.

The bows I would make 7/8” at the ends and 1 - 1/8” in the center but the original front bow measured 7/8” side and middle.  Please be advised that I couldn’t get into the rear of the car to measure and the flat bow was the first one off the windshield.  It appeared to me that there was more of a curve to the roof the further to the rear you looked.  Not much, but slight.  I had planned to check the rear of my car for curvature and taper that down to flat as I approached the windshield.  Thus making the last two closest bows to the windshield 7/8” side, middle, and end.  The picture below was not the car I measured.  I will have to dig those up.



General Discussion / Re: Cheers
« on: June 18, 2010, 01:02:40 PM »
I really am stuck on this one. Just about been everywhere looking for pictures or measurements.

Emery,  Check out this post on this site:

I have the dementions and additional pictures somewhere, Will have to dig them up.


General Discussion / Re: wiper
« on: June 11, 2010, 09:23:36 PM »
I do not have a handle.  I did not know that the windshield moves at all.  I will need to look at that this evening.  Interesting.


Your interior was redone so maybe they just paneled over the mechanism but the window opens about 2.5 inches to allow airflow into the cabin and across the windshield.

Notice Item 1.  The windshield crank handle:

Here is a picture from a post on this website.  Notice the handle up at the top:


General Discussion / Re: wiper
« on: June 11, 2010, 05:53:04 PM »

I have the same vacuum on/off switch on my car also.  This is stock.  Plymouth didn’t come with an inside manual option.  The small crank handle above on the driver’s side is to raise and lower the windshield to provide air circulation.   My wiper doesn’t work and I haven’t attempted to take it apart yet.  I believe the tubing is steel.


General Discussion / Re: front end shake
« on: June 08, 2010, 01:14:47 PM »

These cars were mostly geared low for putting down dirt farm roads and crowed city streets.  My car provides the best ride between 30-35 mph.  When I climb past 40 the motor starts to knock.  Especially if she is very hot.  The whole car shakes because my wood framing is pretty rotten.   I pushed the car past 50 mph on a slight downhill and believe me the ride was very scary.  I haven’t pushed her since. 

In your case I would suspect the wood wheels.  It would be good if someone could ride next to you and determine if your wheels are wobbling.  After all these are wood spoked wheels put together by hand.  Whoever drilled the center hole on your redone wheels only had to be off dead center by a small amount to create a wobble at high speed.  But then again these cars were not used on super highways so the wood wheels were more then adequate.   Do you have wood dust around the point where the spokes pin into the rims ?  If you do your rim is moving slightly in respect to the spokes.  My car has this problem and needs the wheels redone.  The Plymouth manual says to park the car in a shallow stream over night to swell the spokes.  Pretty high tech !


General Discussion / Re: interior
« on: June 06, 2010, 02:15:24 PM »

I suspect that the rear wheel well will not allow the very rear winds to open fully.   The hardware I see in the picture for your car looks correct.  Those little ‘T’ handles look original.  I have never attempted to open the very rear windows on my car in that the wood framing is in bad repair. I was worried about getting them closed again.   To my knowledge no one manufactures replacement wood parts for our particular cars.  I don’t suspect it would be a booming demand for them in that there are not a lot of these cars around.  If you do remove your interior panels to expose the wood framing please take pictures in that I want to redo mine but will not have time to start this project this year.  I think I am about 3 years away from that adventure.  To many other projects.


PS... Enjoy driving your 29 this summer.  Take pictures of your adventures.

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: June 04, 2010, 01:01:38 AM »

Thanks for all the posts.  My 29 has an electric fuel pump since I purchased the car.  The line going to the vacuum side of the oil pump is connected for looks to the Vacuum tank fuel pump.  I will have to check to see if it is plugged or not.  I never paid much attention to it since the car worked just fine.

I am glad you got the oil pressure working. 


General Discussion / Re: Pin type grease fittings
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:16:29 PM »

The pin type Grease Fittings ( I think manufactured by Alemite) used on the 29 Plymouth are also used on my 1948 Plymouth.  The rounded Zerk fittings came out in 1929 but it doesn’t seem that they were used in Plymouths until sometime in the 1950’s.  If you find out any more information on grease fittings I would be interested in the link.


PS… Grease fittings are commonly made from zinc-plated steel, stainless steel, or brass. 

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 25, 2010, 12:52:21 PM »
Plymouth Bulletin ...........Can someone tell me how to get ahold of past bulletins, are they avail on CD. The Dodge Brothers club has done this and so maybe Plymouth has as well, thanks

See link below.   1959 to 2007 all issues for $39.95.

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 21, 2010, 12:53:10 PM » <>..........This is coming back as an invalid e-mail address, is there a more current or updated, Havent heard anything back yet from the other address given for Earl.
Was there a picture of the toolkit he was selling and is either of the issues you mentioned still avail?

Yes there was a picture but it is very small. I will try to scan it over the weekend.  Sorry about the email addresses they came out of the December 2009 issue.  Not all that old ???

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 20, 2010, 01:11:12 PM »
As an FYI…

The November/December 2009 issue of the Plymouth Bulletin had a gentleman selling a 31-32 PA PB Plymouth tool kit.  The parts that are listed were; wheel wrench, tappet wrench, 3-2 sided box wrenches, pliers, screwdriver, and hammer with canvas bag.  He also referenced a May/June 1985 issue of the Bulletin as a reference article on Plymouth tools.


General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 18, 2010, 06:53:50 PM »
I would try the Technical Advisors for the Plymouth Owners Club:

1928Q - Earl Button     email

1929U - Jeff C Button   email

Good Luck,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 26, 2010, 01:14:23 PM »
Please let us know what Egge says about your oil pump.

Regarding the dipstick and oil quantity, when I bought my 29 in 73, it had a dip stick from a latter model Plymouth that indicated 6 quarts.  I remarked it for four.


I must have the same dip stick that you have because I would have to add 2 additional quarts to reach the full line. 

Tks, Chet...

General Discussion / Re: 4Dr sill plates
« on: April 23, 2010, 02:58:41 PM »

Thanks Gary.., they look great.


General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 23, 2010, 12:41:56 AM »
The rear main oil return pipe, is it the same lenght as the one to the oil screen?  Is the rear one shorter ????    Does the bottom (inside) of your oil pan have a baffle and a "top plate".

Rusty it has been 2 years since I had the oil pan off and I really can't tell you much about the dimensions of the fill or return tube.  I believe the oil pan does have a baffle to trap slug.  Based on everything you have reported, bench testing of the pump and verification that the pump is turning in the engine the only possible reason you could not be pumping oil is that there must be an air leak between the pump and the oil.  The input tubing must be leaking somewhere.  

My 2 cents,   Chet...

PS...On a second thought the tubing could be clogged but I assume you have been all over this.  Maybe you could use some shop air down the fill tub and by closing the input end see if the air escapes anywhere else.  But you have probably been down this path also. 

This one is a puzzlement.

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