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General Discussion / Re: Another Plymouth down under.
« on: January 03, 2008, 09:47:31 AM »
Hi Gary & Welcome,

You certainly bought a very interesting and rare old car.  I believe the Detroit plant ran 2 side by side production lines.  Below is my best guess.

Total Production of the 28Q was approximately 67,482 cars.
Your Serial Number = HDO14L   translated =  390,147

First production line run start = HL950P translated = 379,501  End = HD999D translated = 399,999
Second production line run start = RW000P translated = 400,001  End = RH997H translated =  439,973

First production line Detroit total cars built = 20,498  Your car being # 10,646.
Second production line Detroit cars built = 39,972
Windsor Canada built approximately = 7,012

Other places on the Web for early Plymouths:

Plymouth Owners Club Forum:
First Decade Plymouths:


General Discussion / Re: Seasons Greetings to All
« on: December 27, 2007, 06:10:08 PM »
I am pondering putting my gas tank back in my 30u.  I noticed th parts book has listed  an "anti-squeak (liner) and an anti-squeak (to the rear crossmember lining).  What would these parts be??  I'm certain they were not in the car when I removed the tank.  ( only two weeks ago)

Thanks for all the help.  Jim g


My guess would be a strip of 1/8” rubber between the gas tank straps and the tank.  Probably between the top frame & tank and the bottom strap and the tank.  This is just my best guess.


General Discussion / Seasons Greetings to All
« on: December 25, 2007, 09:47:22 AM »
Remember keep those old cars running and don’t forget to check in and tell us how you did it.

Merry Christmas.!!! 


Happy New Driving Year to All.!!!


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 06:22:50 PM »

Here is the info you need.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 04:00:05 PM »
I understand,someone has taken the fittings off the tank.I guess i will hook It up and if it doesn't work i will switch the lines around. thanks again


I will check tonight.  I could tell you which is which by taking a picture of the top looking at the fill vent.   I will also check because the gas inlet might have a ball bearing check valve built in to keep gas from flowing back into the gas line.

I’ll let you know tomorrow.


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 20, 2007, 12:43:14 PM »

I am pretty sure that for the model 39 Kingston Pump the female elbow (inside thread) is the vacuum side and the outside threaded elbow is the gas side.

See diagram below…

Mr. Old Plymouths is correct.  Fix all leaks, the canister gasket, and ensure that the float is in good shape and you have a repaired Vacuum Gas Pump.  A little exterior paint will make it nice.


General Discussion / Re: Kingston Vacume Tank
« on: December 19, 2007, 05:03:38 PM »

Here is a picture of mine. 

KINGSTON PRODUCTS CORP  Kokomo Indiana  -  Model 39
Date#   5 / 30
JAN 18, 1921    -    AUG 1, 1922
APR  7, 1922    -    JAN 22, 1924

To repair.

  • Fix All leaks.
  • Ensure that the float is in good shape.
  • Make & Replace the top can gasket.

The way it works is engine vacuum sucks the gas into the top chamber.  When there is sufficient gas to raise the float.   The bottom port opens and dumps the gas into the bottom half of the vacuum canister.  From here it is gravity feed into the carburetor.

Very simple and effective.


Hello Eric,

Welcome to this group.  When you get a chance maybe post a little info like what type of car you have and if a picture is possible please feel free to post one.

Tks again,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: 1929-30 PLYMOUTH SPEC. SHEET PDF file
« on: December 16, 2007, 09:14:04 AM »

Tks for posting, Good info...   Chet

General Discussion / Re: BE A VOLTAGE REGULATOR PRO page 2
« on: December 11, 2007, 12:48:50 PM »

If you like you can email me the scan files and I will put the two pages up as viewable & downloadable pdf files.


PS... When I get a chance I will increase the allowable picture size for the forum.

General Discussion / Re: Shop manual / repair manual
« on: November 29, 2007, 06:54:36 PM »
An original 28 Instruction manual is pretty neat.   It looks the same as the more commonly found 29 book.  You may find some differences with the Master cylinder picture or diagram.  The Motor in the 28 looks slightly different then the 29, but functionally everything else should be the same.

I saw that book and almost bid on it,  I’m glad you got it.  It should be an interesting read.  It seems the folks in that time were more prone to self maintenance then in today’s use it once.., throw it away society. 


General Discussion / Re: Shop manual / repair manual
« on: November 26, 2007, 06:36:36 PM »

I am not sure if a shop manual exists.  The 1929 Plymouth Instruction Book or operator’s manual has a lot of technical information.  If you don’t have one they come up on eBay frequently so keep an eye out.  I am in the process of doing an OCR redo of mine which I will make available online to this group whenever I finish it. 

For example see the link to the Distributor section:

If you find anything let us know.

PS… did you get the belts and were they any help.


General Discussion / Re: Horn Button and cover
« on: November 21, 2007, 07:38:26 PM »
I will have to check to see what I have in the way of digital photos of the RS Coupe plus its mate - a 1930 30U 4-door sedan with 33,00 original miles. I've ownd the sedan for 27 years and the RS Coupe for 20. They also share space with a 1936 Plymouth P2 Touring sedan (47,000 miles and all original - think Driveable Dream in Hemmings Classic Car) as well as a couple of early 50's Chryslers, a 1974 TR6 and a 1987 Porsche 944T. Quite a mix!

Either you’re single or you have a very understanding wife… 

Happy Thanksgiving,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Horn Button and cover
« on: November 20, 2007, 08:22:27 PM »
Hello Bearings 46,

And welcome to this forum.   Feel free to talk about anything from the weather or whether or not to buy that next car project.   I would enjoy seeing a picture of your car and I suppose there are others that feel the same way.  So if you have the time post a picture.

Happy Thanksgiving,  Chet…

General Discussion / Tire Pump
« on: November 18, 2007, 05:49:35 PM »
The wife & I were out on a typical Sunday hunt through a local Antique Mall when I ran across this M.B. Holster Tire pump which I picked up for peanuts.   Definitely a precision made tire pump which is mostly brass with a full 22 inch stroke.   I am overwhelmed with the quality and construction of this vintage tool.

My plan is to build a display box for this, my Atlas rim tool, accompanied by the vintage hub puller which I picked up at the Hershey show this year.

My question is does anyone know anything about this manufacture:

M.B. Holster
Richland, PA

Tks,  Chet...

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