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General Discussion / Re: 30U rear main oil seal
« on: March 05, 2008, 09:02:18 AM »

If you don’t see any telltale sign of leaking by the main bearing it is probably best to let it be.   I changed the main in my 48 with the motor in the car and it was a real pain to do.

See link…

Flashers are a good thing to have.  I have noticed with the 29 that people are always trying to sneak around me while out in normal traffic.   Here in Northern Virginia speed limits are casual suggestions so I guess I am not going fast enough for the average VA driver.  Also the rear vision in the 29 Sedan is poor at best with many blind spots. 

I installed flashers in my car by using the front parking light bulbs as front flashers and installed a removable setup on the rear bumper.  Basically I created a trailer connection under the car where I could plug in my rear lights.  I used two standard round trailer lights and affixed them to the rear bumper using an aluminum back plate and wing nuts.   Of course 6 vdc bulbs.  They actually look fine and are very functional.  The point being is that I didn’t have to modify the car and if you wish.., everything can be quickly removed for a car show and quickly reinstalled for the drive home.

I too thought about adding the extra tail light then decided on the above method.  I will try to find a picture and post it for you. 


General Discussion / Re: 30U rear main oil seal
« on: March 04, 2008, 03:50:32 PM »

Here is a link to Tod Fitch's Site - Plymouth's - The First Decade  with Info on the rear seal in the 29-U Plymouth:  If your 30 U has the 196 engine then this may or may not apply.   The master gasket kit is for both engines the 175 & 196 with minor differences in some gaskets so maybe this info might be applicable.  I am not sure.

I hope this helps, Chet...

General Discussion / Re: 29 U Running Boards Question
« on: February 24, 2008, 11:40:55 PM »
Chet, My 30 U has wooden runming boards. As far as I can tell they are the origanel. If someone has changed them it was done more than 40 years ago.

Doug I guess mine will be wood also...

Today I finished the driver's side running board. 

The total project cost for both will not exceed $150.00  The ribbed rubber looks really nice and doesn't have the swirl illusion that the camera captured in the photo.
Total visiable width is 1.0625 inches

Looks pretty close to the link below minus the big price tag.

Chet...   ::)

For the Project Blow by Blow click on this link...

General Discussion / Re: 29 U Running Boards Question
« on: February 21, 2008, 10:03:26 AM »
I totally agree with you and your approach. I wasn't implying that you should look into buying the repo's but rather just confirming that the original running boards were metal and not wood.
Jim Yergin


Sorry.., My rant was NOT directed at you I appreciate your help.  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Wire spoked rims
« on: February 21, 2008, 07:29:52 AM »
Thanks Ski,

I also currently have a lead on one.  If he still has it I would grab it anyway.  This part is one of those that doesn’t break so if missing it is very hard to find.  Right now I have a functioning “T” but it’s not original and held in with tie raps.   If my car required state inspection the inspector would flip..!  Like a lot of stuff in my car it’s temporary until I can find the real deal.

Let me know, I hope he still has your wheels and drums.


General Discussion / Re: 29 U Running Boards Question
« on: February 20, 2008, 04:21:15 PM »

Thanks I saw the ad in the POC Bulletin.  The problem I have is a limit on the available dollars I have to spend on cars.  This year I will be sending the 48 to the paint shop and that will eat up a significant amount of available cash.   Even at the close to $900 dollar cost for the reproduction running boards I would still need to affix the rubber and buy a set of moldings.  It probably would be $1200.00 or more when all is said and done. 

I think I will stick with my project and see how it comes out.  After all.., at this point I don’t expect to win any car show trophies just want to tool around in a car, that to the average bystander, looks good.  After all if I were rich I would probably be screwing around with a Duisenberg or a Cord. 

Anyway maybe someday down the road I will run across a parts car with useable running boards.  If not.., the option to spend money is always available.

I think I am starting to sound like Norm on the P15 forum. :-\

Thanks for looking out for me,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Inside door handles.
« on: February 18, 2008, 07:35:51 AM »
Judging from your profile picture you car looks real nice.  Is that a trunk attached in the rear?   If you get a chance post a picture or two of your car I am personally interested in seeing the Trunk setup.

Tks,  Chet…

PS… I opened the allowable size of a picture file from 250K to 1 Meg. (1,000K)

General Discussion / Re: Wire spoked rims
« on: February 18, 2008, 07:21:33 AM »
I am in need of the rear end hydraulic T connector.  Will pay $40.00. 

Also if you don’t plan on keeping them I might be interested in your old wood wheels.


General Discussion / Re: Wire spoked rims
« on: February 17, 2008, 06:33:45 PM »

The Plymouth Master Parts List shows a different brake drum for wire wheels.  Group 22-B Brake Drums:

“”Wheel brake drum (wire wheel) – Q, U after Y-024-PW U.S. Built and all Canadian built, 30-U up to 1558001 and also cars listed in Note 1.  and 2 group 22A and except cars listed in note 3  Group No. 3 group 22-A US built and up to 92002587 Canadian built is part number 44009.””

The book lists 4 pages of different combinations of drums and wheels.  Mostly in the 30-U category but there were still many versions.  Just a caution.!!!   4 or 5 hole drums seem to be an important item.

Jim B. is correct.., If you can also get the drums this might be best.  I have had trouble with 29 wood wheels.., in that they fit my car but my split rims didn’t fit the wheel and I had to modify the position of the tire fill tube hole.

1929 Plymouth Salesmen Data Book:

Good Luck,  Chet…

Maybe someone else can give you advice on this conversion.  I have no experience.

General Discussion / Re: Wire spoked rims
« on: February 16, 2008, 08:30:17 PM »

Wire spoke wheels were available for the 29 as an option.  I’m not at home so I can’t check the book right now but I believe they were around $5.00 per wheel additional charge. 


General Discussion / Re: Floor covering + P15 Update
« on: February 15, 2008, 02:45:12 PM »
How is the P15 coming?
Jim Yergin


I haven’t been doing much to the 48 over the winter.  I am in the body prep stage and that’s a little hard to do with the cold weather.  I plan to use some vacation time to make headway in the early spring.  I hope to be out of the paint shop by summer or worst case.., fall.  Of course having two cars to work on has really divided my time.  It’s hard to believe that I have been working on the 48 for 4 years now.  I am really looking forward to getting the car back from the paint shop so I can start rebuilding and detailing the interior.  Probably won’t be on the road until summer of 2009.   You know how that goes…


General Discussion / Re: 29 U Running Boards Question
« on: February 15, 2008, 08:22:04 AM »
You know ski, I posed that question to the POC board some time ago and I don’t remember who but someone responded by saying they were plywood with rubber coating.

I posted the question again this morning.  I did find a vendor at Hershey that made molded aluminum running boards to your dimensions.  They have inlayed rubber.   I believe the price was around $950.00.  I think my wood boards will work until I find an original set.  That is.., if the Detroit cars were in fact metal.

I am trying to repair some shabby work done to my car prior to my purchasing it.  The running boards that came with it when I bought it were tong & groove oak over plywood.  Not even close to what they should be.  The person that did the work was definitely not a carpenter.  I think more like a butcher.

Thanks for the heads up…  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Inside door handles.
« on: February 14, 2008, 01:49:26 PM »
If I remember correctly I am pretty sure my car uses a square hole and pin.  Can’t check right now because the car is in my daughter’s garage.  Lots of parts lying around the house but none of them door handles.

Maybe Mr Old Plymouths will know for sure.

General Discussion / Re: Floor covering
« on: February 14, 2008, 01:42:23 PM »
The Jury is in.

The ribbed rubber floor liner looks great and is pure rubber.  Should be perfect for the floor in the 29.  I might have to piece it in the center but I don’t know yet until I measure the overall width.  This runner is thicker then the original 48 trunk liner (1/8") but will still look and work well.  I don’t think it comes in any other color except black but here is the link.  You might want to search other suppliers Query ( Rubber Floor Runners )

Now to figure out what type of glue is best to glue rubber to wood.???


General Discussion / Re: Floor covering
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:49:21 AM »
Jim it just came in today.  I was going to pick it up on my way to lunch.  If the stuff looks good I will let you know. 


PS... Nice to see that you check in every now an again.  How is the woodie coming.., will I get a ride in it this year.???  :)

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