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General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:07:28 AM »
more....  Kim Mc

General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:04:32 AM »
still more pics....  Kim Mc

General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:02:36 AM »
more top pics... Kim Mc

General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:00:30 AM »
Chet:  Hi Chet.  You mention "a picture below"... I didn't get a picture or are you referring to an earlier picture.  All the wood is oak.  The perimeter of the top of the cab is all wood framing beneath the sheet metal.  There is so much wood that if you removed all the sheet metal, there would still be a wood structure remaining that outlines the shape of the car!  The top perimeter framing is many pieces glued and screwed together.  I had to do a lot of fabrication and fitting to reproduce the repair parts I made.  I can try to get a cross sectional shape of the side and front main wood pieces but none of these are a consistent cross section from front to back.  But I will do the best I can for you.  It is probably a good thing that all this wood is covered by either the top material or the interior headliner and fabric of the sides.  I am still a little confused by what you are referring to as wood "trim".  The wood framing is not 'trim', but rather a substantial wood support structure.  But maybe I misunderstand what you are referring to.  I'll take some more pictures and try to do some sketches.  My fabric top was not the original, but the original "gutter" metal and metal "half-round" to finish the back edge of the top were retained.  The wood framing had both black paint and plenty of overspray from the original green body paint.  The raw edge of the top fabric was finished with a fabric belt also tacked down and apparent in the photos.  I'm going to post all the pictures I took of the top before I removed it.  It will take about 6 posts I think.

General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 04, 2014, 07:24:35 PM »
SteveG:  I found the pics of my fabric top prior to removal.  It was not the original top but was secured around the perimeter in the same manner as the original.  I am sending 2 pics, one of the left front corner above the A pillar, and the other is the left rear corner above and behind the door.  I have about 12 more pictures but they are large format (3MB) so if you want to see those too I can send them to your email.  If others here want to see them I will just go ahead and reduce their size and post them here.  Let me know.

Chet:  I still have the wood exposed on my coupe so if you need more pictures let me know what parts you want to see.  You probably remember that I posted quite a few pics of the top wood in the thread I mentioned above ("I need some advise") (spelling error mine).  It's now on page 4 of the General Discussion.

Old Man:  You remember right.  :)

General Discussion / Re: '28 Top Reconstruction
« on: March 03, 2014, 05:40:43 PM »
The top on my '29 coupe was tacked to the wood framing all the way around.  The finish trim strip around the perimeter was also tacked using small round-headed tacks about 3/8 to 1/2 inch long.  I can't send a picture 'cause the top is off now.  But you might want to look at a previous post of mine on page 4 of this General Discussion forum.  It's titled "I need some advise..."; top wood repair discussion starts on about page 6 of that post.  I'll check my picture file to see if I have a photo of the original fabric top.

General Discussion / Re: Upohlstery Project '29 Plymouth Coupe
« on: December 01, 2013, 06:47:54 AM »
Hey Rich.  I am attaching 2 more pictures.  Interestingly, the driver's door does not have a pouch in the interior panel.  Perhaps this is because it is the Business Coupe, which I presume pretty much mean "no frills".  The seat is the original leather I believe; the car was originally my great grandfather's and was pretty much original when I received it about 60 yrs ago.  The pleats of both the seat and back are 4 inches wide.  Hope this helps.  mc

General Discussion / Re: Upohlstery Project '29 Plymouth Coupe
« on: November 30, 2013, 07:43:44 PM »
29Plycoop: I am sending you a picture of the original interior panel with pouch on my '29 coupe.  I believe the pouch originally was elastic and pleated, but I can check that if you want.  If you have other specific questions or need other pictures just let me know.  Glad to help if I can.  Kim Mc

Hello Tinkeys.  I haven't heard from you so I thought I may have missed a reply or email.  I just wanted to make sure we hadn't missed connections.  I am still able to help if you need it.  mc

Hey Tinkeys.  I live about 30 miles from Carmichael and could pick the block up for you.  I have no idea how to ship something like that overseas but I guess I will learn.  Maybe we should continue the discussion off the forum. 
I'll send you an email.  talk to you soon.  Kim Mc

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: May 19, 2013, 08:22:19 PM »
Well, work on making the replacement wood pieces has been sporadic but I've finished that part.  Now I have to take out some shallow dents in the sheet metal in the upper right rear corner before I install the wood parts.  Once the wood is in, I won't be able to get at the metal behind the new pieces.  I am showing the separate new pieces below; I've had to make modifications from the original in order to fit the replacement parts to the good wood that remained after I cut out the dry rot.  I've also included the only two original pieces that came out in bits but I was able to glue them back together for at least partial patterns.  The parts pictured include 3 pieces that will fit in the curved corner; a long piece that extends from the L side to the R side across the back of the cab (the top gets tacked to this piece); 1 of the 4 top bows that I re-inforced with plywood strips along each side; and a couple of the new top slats (and an old one).  The top slats were cut from 1/4" T x 5 1/2" W x 48" L pre-cut poplar that I found at Home Depot; I was able to cut 3 of the 1 3/4" wide slats from each stock piece.  I made 15 slats for about $2 each.  I will install the corner wood pieces after I complete the little body work.  But I plan not to install the top bows and slats until later; I think it may be better to have that top hole left open while I tackle some of the other work.

General Discussion / Re: differential pinion oil seal rebuild
« on: May 19, 2013, 05:09:19 PM »
Jim:  I need to do both of these jobs.  Thank you for posting this "how to...".   Kim

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: May 02, 2013, 03:41:12 AM »
I'm on a roll.  Got a couple of the bows laminated today.  Glued plywood strips to each side of a bow and then stitched them in place with 5/8" long narrow crown staples at 3" intervals the length of the bow.  That really stiffened them up and made the bow feel a lot more substantial.  After sanding one down I just had to fit it in the top; looks good.  Two more bows to laminate; made a simple jig to hold each one in place while I glue and staple the plywood strips.  You will notice several holes in the middle of one bow; the adjacent bow has the same holes.  I think those were probably to mount a block between the bows in order to mount a dome light in models other than a business coupe like mine.  But I am going to place a block between the bows because I may want to install a dome light someday even though this car didn't come with one originally.  Probably would have gotten more done but I ran out of glue.  So I spent the time figuring out how I'm going to make the next repair piece.  I want to get this wood repair done and get on to something new and different.

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: May 01, 2013, 08:33:31 PM »
Here's the latest wood fix.  The back top bow was broken at one end right at the dado that fits in the side beam.  Initially, I glued it in place but didn't like the result so I removed the bow to make a better repair.  I was afraid that if I didn't fix it right or make a new bow, it might fail during or after a new top installation.  So, the glue joint seemed pretty tight (break visible in picture "bow end 5"), but I put 2 small dowels through the break into good wood on either side.  These, coupled with the 1/8" plywood re-enforcmnent I will soon attach to both sides of each bow, should make the bows much stronger as well as re-enforcing the weak spots.  It might have been easier to just cut out new bows but each is a different length and each has a "bow" (about 1/2"+ above level) at the center (in simple terms, they are curved).  Hope this isn't too much detail or that I'm boring all you that have done your restorations.   

General Discussion / Re: I need some advise...
« on: April 30, 2013, 04:01:03 PM »
Thanks Jason.  I appreciate hearing from one that has been down this same laborious road.  I expect making the parts will be easier than putting everything together and making it all fit!  Gotta go....wife just told me we've got no water pressure so have to go see what's going on at the well....don't ya luv it!!

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