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#106
General Discussion / Re: grease fittings
July 21, 2011, 07:09:42 AM
No Plymouth would never have used the pin-type.
In studying Dodge I can make some  fairly educated assumptions concerning Plymouth.
Chrysler, Dodge,Plymouth, Desoto, Fargo ect would have all made alot of the same changes across the board because the service centers had to maintain all makes and models so you would not have seen a brand new 1932 Plymouth and the same Dodge in adjoining bays with different style fittings which would have required different technique to service.
The only time this would have been possible would have been in the cases where there were excess zerk to be used up possibly.
Dodge discontinued the use of the pin-type sometime in April of 1923 and went with the zerks up until sometime 33-34 so Plymouth would certaintely have been introduced with zerks.
Todd Fitch posted this on his site.........This information is distilled from [Cannon 2004]. There are two types of pressure lubrication (grease) fittings found on early Plymouths: Zerk and "Alemite hydraulic". Both were manufactured by Stewart Warner. The Zerk fitting, shown on the left, was used on Plymouth through 1933. The "modern" "Alemite hydraulic", shown on the right, was used on Plymouth starting in 1934..........
I would like to know the source that skinned knuckles used for this information. I have a couple of people that have offered the articles to me and am only waiting for someone to have the time to push thru with it.
Earl Butons comments are appreciated.
#107
General Discussion / confidential/service bulletins
July 20, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
Anyone here have any knowledge of how Chrysler issued these. Just picked up a bunch 33-37 but see no rhyme to reason on their order. I can of course post some specific pict. showing better what I am misunderstanding if need be.
Just to clarify I am hoping someone here has some of these and can explain to me how these were issued. Thanks
#108
General Discussion / Skinned knuckles
July 20, 2011, 06:31:57 AM
I am looking for an article written some time ago about grease fittings. I have read that it was  Vol 1 issue 3 and have also read Vol. 28 No. 12 (July 2004), Maybe this later issue was a reprint of the original.

Does anyone here have these issues and can scan or photocopy.

Neither issue is avail. any longer from the back-issue reserve of skinned-knuckles web-site. Thanks
#109
General Discussion / Re: grease fittings
July 20, 2011, 06:10:42 AM
Thats a start, thanks
#110
General Discussion / grease fittings
July 19, 2011, 03:01:17 PM
Can anyone tell me when plymouth went from a zerk fitting as seen here to the Alemite hydraulic
#111
General Discussion / Re: Tools
July 19, 2011, 02:58:53 PM
Great Pict. Als30U Thank-you for that, can you give me an approximate length on the hub-cap wrench and does it fit the hub-cap?
#112
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 21, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Nice looking set of tools there Glen, I dont see anything specifically related to a Plymouth toolkit but nonetheless there are some treasures there, I especially like the little crecent wrench last picture down all the way in R corner. If you get what tools you would like to sell together I would reccoment this site....http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php   There you will find lots of nice people interested in buying trading and identifying tools.
#113
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 20, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Glenn, I am interested in all of it so does that mean I have first dibbs on what you have??? ;D
If you just want a toolkit than you can go anywhere to get that, your nearest Sears will have any tool you could want.
#114
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 19, 2011, 08:35:48 PM
Gary, it we can come up with these individual parts book pages that have the part numbers than alot of these items will fall into place. I can compare these part numbers with the part numbers and information I have collected for Dodge and in this way we can all know what originally came with your Plymouth.
I have thank-fully now a few of these pages and the part numbers used for plymouth in many cases are identical to the Dodge part numbers.
I have asked several people how to go about getting a club roster so that Plymouth  car owners can be contacted and asked about what tools they might have and as importantly if they have the part book for their car but so far I have not had any Plymouth club members answer my question on wether a roster even exists.
The only way that anyone in our lifetime will have these questions answered is by picking up the phone and making phone calls. This is what had to be done to collect a good portion of the information i have so far.
The majority of people that I have spoken with enjoy talking about their cars and are more than eager to share what info they have.
Can you tell me if a roster exists and how I might secure a copy? Thanks
#115
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 15, 2011, 05:18:34 PM
Thank-you anyway
#116
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 15, 2011, 08:14:44 AM
I was able to find some of that info yesterday but that is more than I was able to find so thanks for that.
Can you answer this so I can put it to rest, you mentioned what you had and said you would post it, I asked.......... is that the owners manual or the model specific parts book, I have the owners manual already. .............
#117
General Discussion / Re: Ault park
June 15, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
No, this is what I should have done, it was getting late last night and it slipped my mind, I was given his conact info from a member on another board..............



Talked with the fellow for maybe 2 hrs tonight, I havent spoken with a nicer fellow in a long time, he was eager to answer all of my questions and listened to what I had to say. He is truly a benefit or credit to your club
#118
General Discussion / Ault park
June 14, 2011, 03:52:08 PM
I know this is a long shot but does anyone know of a gentleman first name Larry that has a 1929 Plymouth Roadster that would have been on the field of Ault Park in Cincinnati, OH. This is a pict of his car, I have wanted to get in touch with him for some time now to share information. Thanks
#119
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 14, 2011, 12:50:18 PM
I was able to answer my own question, I forgot that I had this 29 Plymouth model specific parts manual, my next question so this post in not a complete waste would be on the cover of this book it states affective serial numbers Detroit from HL950p to RH977H Windsor from GP000P to GP5808............Unless I am incorrect these are serial numbers of the cars that the book covers so would this book cover 28 models as well, I dont know how these numbers ran and have been under the impression that most if not all 28 Plymouths were introduced as 29 models and please correct me if I am wrong.
It would appear clear that all Plymouth after 29 would have had the same books issued to them so please help if you can, thanks
#120
General Discussion / Re: Tools
June 14, 2011, 11:02:59 AM
Thanks, is that the owners manual or the model specific parts book, I have the owners manual already.
Is there such a thing as a model specific parts book for these early Plymouths, just in case that is unclear.....Dodge for instance had parts books released each year, in some cases they also issued revised issues and  preliminary issues as well. These parts manual are much more accurate than Masters Parts books because these books showed more accurate current parts #s as apposed to later additions where they sorta jumbled alot of things together.
It is with these model specific parts books that I am able to cross referance part # for instance I have found 3 original Dodge toolkits for the 1936 model year, Plymouth using their master parts book ( that shows pict. by the way ) has confirmed that Plymouth used the same jack.
Another example is the Plymouth 32 P2 used the same jack as Dodge used for a number of years, I know what these jacks looked like thru collection of photos and literature from both makes. I unfortunately cant say what other specific year Plymouths used this 941 jack because I dont have the model specific parts book for Plymouth or rather I have very few so if anyone has any suggestions on contact people that would scan that single page from their parts books ( if it does exist ) than I can move forward.
I cant afford to buy every Plymouth part book that shows up on e-bay.