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While making a new wiring harness, kept track of some wiring information not found in any Plymouth manuals. There are numbers embossed on the head-light switch and on the face of the head-light connector plugs.  They are referenced to in this chart.  The head-light plugs can only be inserted in the right orientation as the two twist lock pins are not straight apart.
One interesting thing is the 1929 Plymouth "U" has a #1000 head-light bulb that has a designation of , 32-32 CP (candle power)  That means the low beam and high beam is the same power and only one filament lights at a time.  ??  The Plymouth "Instruction Manual" explains how to adjust the beam with the screw in the back of the head-light buckets, so my guess is the refraction in the "Depressed Beam" lens must make the difference in the low and high beams. Any ideas on this mystery?
  In reference to the wiring schematic in the "Plymouth Instruction Manual";
       #42 parking light wire is BROWN (#3 on switch)
       #43 high beam wire is RED (#4 on switch)
       #44 low beam wire is BLACK (#6 on switch)

To save & copy wiring chart click on the attachment title.


Rich,  Would you mind if I moved a copy of this post to the Tech Info Section.


General Discussion / Seasons Greetings !!!
« on: December 22, 2010, 02:24:08 PM »

I suppose that the cars are buttoned up for the winter and thoughts have turn toward other things.  I would just like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday season.   It is probably not said enough but thanks to all for your advise, opinion, and involvement in this forum. 

Have a Happy New Year !!!


General Discussion / Re: king pins
« on: November 11, 2010, 05:08:18 PM »

Hi Chet
Many thanks i got a kingpin kit $159 and $41 postage, Now to rebuild the front end finger crossed.
cheers Glenn


Take a picture or two.  It would be nice to see what the task involves.


General Discussion / Re: king pins
« on: November 03, 2010, 08:49:33 PM »
Then & Now Auto Automotive has the Kingpin sets.  I believe he quoted the price at $159.00

Give them a call if you are OK with the pricing.


General Discussion / Re: king pins
« on: November 03, 2010, 07:45:53 PM »
I put a call into Then & Now Automotive – 781-335-8860  They may be able to help and told me they would give me a call back.

You might try,  

Andy Bernbaum Auto Parts - Source for Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler.  Heard good & bad you be the judge.  Prices & Mechanical Parts OK...   Call  617-244-1118   They are not listed in his online catalog but they might be able to help.

Or the POC online ads

Good luck, Chet...

PS...  Unlike the Modal A Ford, parts for our cars are a little more challenging to find.   King pins should be available you just may have to hunt around a little. 

General Discussion / Re: front lisence plate
« on: October 28, 2010, 05:22:15 PM »

I would think that the license plate is mounted far enough from the radiator to allow enough air to circulate around it.  Most cars of the era had the license plate mounted on the headlight bar. 

Keep us posted,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Just joined 1929 4 door
« on: October 21, 2010, 03:58:06 PM »

Welcome, there are a couple of members of this forum who are from Australia.  Do you have any idea what it would cost to ship the car from Canada to Australia ?  I guess it would depend on whether Australia will now be your permanent home.   Anyway I hope the site provides some information for you which will help you make the decision. 


General Discussion / Re: 29 ply HUB CAP
« on: October 19, 2010, 02:25:12 AM »

I didn't find any either.  They come up every now and again.  Stay tuned you'll find one eventually.

Good luck,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Dodge VS Plymouth
« on: October 15, 2010, 01:09:13 PM »
Could not make Hershey so will rely on everyone to let me know how it went this year. Happy Motoring!!!! - Rich


Hershey was pretty much the same as past years, I didn’t spend much time with the car show my main reason for going was parts for my 48 or 29 Plymouth.  Lots of specialty vendors.  Plenty of Packard, and Ford parts, but not much that I could find related to Chrysler.  Oh well I only had the one day and did manage to pick up some molding clips.


General Discussion / Re: acetone and atf
« on: October 14, 2010, 12:52:44 PM »


I haven’t tried this combination but have used acetone to thin oil based paint for use in a spray gun.  My assumption would be that the acetone thins the lubricant so it can penetrate then the acetone evaporates leaving behind the lubricant.   Acetone evaporates very quickly so the treatment should be a quick working penetrating oil.   Actually when used as a paint spray thinner, I think it pretty much evaporates between the gun and the surface you are painting. (10% mixture ac to paint)

My 2 cents,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Dodge VS Plymouth
« on: October 14, 2010, 02:17:38 AM »

Wow the board has become very quiet.  I guess everyone is parking their cars for the winter.  As far as the subject Dodge vs. Plymouth I think the 29 Dodge is very similar to the new style 30-U Plymouth.  Probably the purchase of Dodge by Walter P. had a very positive influence on the Plymouth cars of the 1930’s and the years that followed.  In my opinion the 31 to 33 models were some of the finest cars manufactured for the price range.  Coming out of the depression the quality and the construction of the PA to PD were a major leap that helped move Chrysler into one of the best selling cars of the mid thirties. 


General Discussion / Re: Dodge VS Plymouth
« on: October 07, 2010, 02:09:08 AM »

I’ve been meaning to respond.  I have an original Salesmen’s Reference book from 1929 which stack ranks the Plymouth against 4 cars in it’s price range, Ford, Chevy, Whippet and I can’t remember the other.  Unfortunately I can’t seem to be able to find the book at the moment.   I think Dodge was in a higher price range. 

Interesting excerpt from Allpar website:

“Walter P purchased Dodge in 1928.  It seems that Chrysler successfully bet the entire company on his ability to buy Dodge Brothers... in later years, he was quoted as saying "without Dodge, there would be no Plymouth car". In the sense that Plymouth and the other makes would not have been able to expand production as they later did without Dodge's capacity, plus of course the later sale of Plymouths by Dodge dealers, this was undoubtedly true... and yet, Plymouth, DeSoto and Fargo production were all well under way when the Dodge sale took place. It's interesting, and a little unsettling, to imagine how the two firms would have weathered the upcoming Depression had they remained separate, what with Chrysler's new multiple makes and relatively low levels of production capacity, and Dodge's independent ownership by an investment firm with no other ties to the auto industry.”

Going to Hershey tomorrow,


General Discussion / Re: My Rearend Improvments !!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 06, 2010, 12:55:13 PM »

Great Job, !!!  Looks Great.


General Discussion / Re: Honeycomb Radiator Belch
« on: October 05, 2010, 01:02:18 PM »

My next guess would be an area in your block that has poor water flow.  Water seeps in and fills the pocket.  As you drive you heat the pocket until it turns into steam.  The steam will finally belch out of the engine.  Also the steam will be cooled by the water in the area with good flow so it may appear as a bubble rather then hot white steam.   My guess would be a flow problem in your head or block.  You have a 1930 Dodge.  Did your engine come with a water distribution tube like the 6 cylinder L head. ?   I would try flushing out the head and block with water flow in the opposite direction for normal engine operation.  I would also consider removing the head and looking for signs of crud in the flow ports.  

Second thought:

Cavitation created by an unbalanced water pump propeller might have created the leak and possibly responsible for the large air bubble and foam.  I guess replacing the water pump might be a good place to start.  Does it have the correct sized pulley ?

My 2 cents,   Chet…

General Discussion / Re: Honeycomb Radiator Belch
« on: October 03, 2010, 02:16:07 PM »
The way I look at a problem with overheating is either the radiator can not sufficiently cool the water as it passes through or the engine is developing more heat then the cooling system can shed.   My first suspect would be the radiator.  Is it correct for the car, is it functioning properly.   To trouble shoot the engine side you can use a temperature probe on various places on the block.  Is there a hot spot which is probably not getting water flow?  Sometimes when engines are cleaned out a lot of crud is loosened but not completely flushed out.   Once you have a very hot spot boiling the water it is impossible to balance the cooling system.  I agree with Rusty, my first suspect would be the radiator.

Good luck,  Chet…

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