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General Discussion / Re: 1929 verses 1930 frame and 4 cyl engine
« on: January 15, 2010, 01:08:12 AM »
The Plymouth parts manual shows a different part number for the 30U frame.  I know the 30U boasted a welded frame.  The 28 & 29 frames were bolted together.  Whether the frames are interchangeable I couldn’t tell you.  You might have to look at them.  There were two distinct styles.  Double Drop Straight Frame & The Rigid.X Double Drop Frame.  I believe the straight frame was used for the 28 & 29 I am not sure about the 30U.  The rigid X frame had an X cross member.   I believe the 28 & 29 has a straight cross member.   I don’t know when the X frame was cut into production.

My 2 cents,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: replacement carb
« on: January 13, 2010, 04:04:47 PM »

I currently have a Tillotson on my car.  Off hand I don’t know the model number and it works just fine.  The only problem is that this particular carburetor orients the air cleaner in the wrong direction.  Not really a problem but I thought I would mention it.  I recently picked up a NOS Universal Zenith single barrel updraft carb manufactured in the late 50’s or 60’s.  It gives you a lot of latitude for adjusting the gas mixture since it was manufactured to fit most single port updraft applications from trackers to autos.  I have yet to install the carb so I can’t really comment but it also should work just fine.  Air filter orientation is correct on this one.

Happy hunting,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: luggage rack
« on: January 13, 2010, 03:45:14 PM »
I think you have come across the infamous “chicken before the egg problem”.   If you plan to take a long road trip the trunk would be very convenient then again for a long road trip the spare tire would also be a must. 

What a dilemma, let me know what you decide because I have also toyed with the idea of putting a trunk on the back.  I guess you could just carry a new inner tube and the split rim tool in case of a flat.


General Discussion / Re: luggage rack
« on: January 13, 2010, 02:28:08 PM »
I think the problem you will encounter is not so much finding a bracket that will fit but the question is what to do with the spare tire.   If you leave it in the back I think the trunk would hang out over the rear bumper and that might not look right.  I’m not sure ?


General Discussion / Re: luggage rack
« on: January 13, 2010, 03:14:33 AM »

According to the 1928 to 33 Plymouth Master Parts List the trunk option was not offered until the PA model and the Top Opening Trunk would work with side mounted wheels.  The earliest reference was for the PA Deluxe Sedan and Phaeton.  Part Number 350374.

I would think the trunk with the rear mounted tire might be a problem.  Please let us know if you find anything that might work.


General Discussion / Re: clutch photos
« on: January 06, 2010, 03:42:28 AM »

Nice Job,  Excellent Work !  :)  :)  ::)


General Discussion / Re: 1929 Ignition Switch
« on: January 05, 2010, 02:21:35 PM »

I have been looking for a complete ignition switch assembly for my 29 since I bought my car.  It appears that they are few and far between.  Over the years I have picked up pieces of the switch.., working coil, key switch, decal, etc. ( not cheep )  But I still don’t have enough to make the complete assembly.  I need the dash plate and mounting hardware.  The 30 & 31 models had a third position for auxiliary items.

Good luck, If you get any leads on two of these let me know.

Happy New Year,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: crank pulley removal
« on: December 11, 2009, 06:43:44 AM »

Could it be welded ?

General Discussion / Re: 6 Volt Fuel Pump - will this work?
« on: December 10, 2009, 02:13:03 PM »

I use a low output 12vdc electric fuel pump I purchased from Car Quest I believe it is 2 psi.  My car didn't have the Vacuum pump when I first purchased her and since I have acquired the pump but have yet to hook it up since the electric one works just fine.  The owner before me used two batteries I added an inverter that converts 6vdc negative ground to 12 vdc positive ground.  Intended to be used to put modern radios into old cars.


General Discussion / Re: heater
« on: December 01, 2009, 02:21:25 PM »

Steve on the POC Board has this heater for sale for $200.  If you are interested email him < >.  Tell him Chet told you about the heater.


General Discussion / @@@ Happy Thanksgiving @@@
« on: November 25, 2009, 03:14:12 AM »
To all,

I would like to wish all the members of this forum a very Happy Thanksgiving.  Each of your experiences, expertise, and counsel is helping to make a place in cyber space where owners of early 4 cylinder Plymouths can come to experience great practical information from those of us who “have been there and done that”.    My purpose in creating this forum was to provide a free exchange of information and ideas that are set in an atmosphere of no rules; just early Plymouths back on the road again.

Sometimes within the organization of car shows and judging we forget the purpose of our hobby.  Well, for me anyway it is to influence a younger generation of restorers and have fun in the process.  I have never been able to stay all day at a car show waiting for the awards presentation.   I generally get board and long for the open road, a place I remember from my youth.., a feeling of freedom, self reliance, and the purpose of man, machine and adventure. 

To our members in the Americas, Australia, and Europe your holiday may not be Thursday but our celebration of thanksgiving is, to me, a celebration of self reliance, common sense, and camaraderie between people all engaged in the same wonderful adventure.

So.., Happy Thanksgiving & keep them old cars rolling.


General Discussion / Re: clutch photos
« on: November 21, 2009, 01:57:53 AM »

I emailed the pdf file


General Discussion / Re: clutch photos
« on: November 20, 2009, 08:32:24 PM »
Does any one have a exploded views of a clutch assembly?  The tranmission front bearing retainer is broken and I found a guy that will remake (reweld) mine but he wants a detailed exploded view of clutch throw out bearing assembly.   He wants to make sure that the bearing assembly (throw out and sleeve ) rides on the front bearing retainer.  rusty

Rusty I will scan this tonight, enlarge and post as a pdf file.


General Discussion / Re: heater
« on: November 20, 2009, 08:29:15 PM »

I posted a query concerning 28/29 heater options for our cars on the Plymouth Owner’s Club web forum and Bob posted the following:   “According to the "Standard Catalog of Chrysler" 1924-1990, both the 1928 and 1929 Plymouths had the option:   Heater floor type, hot air heat for thirty dollars.”

I have an original salesman’s reference book for the 1929 sales year but unfortunately two of the four option pages have been lost so I can't verify, but I am sure the info is spot on.  Parts for the heater option must be listed somewhere in the parts reference manual.

Interesting Topic, Chet…

PS..,  Those of you with heaters how about some pictures  :)   

General Discussion / Re: heater
« on: November 19, 2009, 11:15:11 PM »
This is turning out to be an interesting question.  I have been poking around the Internet and haven’t found a whole lot of information on vintage car heaters.  Most sites agree that car heaters became standard equipment in the 1920’s.  So this would lead one to believe that Chrysler Plymouth or their dealerships provided some type of option, possibly after market for the 28 & 29 Plymouths.  

As Rusty mentioned there is currently a 1929 Canadian built Plymouth radiator on ePay that appears to have been fitted with a heat vent toward the top of the radiator.  Similar to what Rich was talking about.   If anyone has more information I also would be interested.

Pictures from the ePay Ad below.

Tks,  Chet…

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