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General Discussion / Re: Model Q Body number plate
« on: December 06, 2008, 01:11:54 AM »
Thanks Chet, I have the VIN medallion on the dash.  You are correct, I am looking for the body number plate that is mounted on the floor and the exact location for it.

Dave,

My car is a 29 and I am not 100% sure this is the original body plate but it appears to be so.

The plate states on the Left side:

HAYES BODY CORP.
GRAND RAPIDS
MICH.



It is mounted on the driver’s side.  Here again the floor has been redone at some point so I don’t know if this is the exact spot it was mounted from the factory.


I hope this helps you some.  It should be a pretty easy plate to duplicate.  Also I think it is copper.

Does anyone else have a similar plate ?

Chet...

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General Discussion / Re: Model Q Body number plate
« on: December 05, 2008, 02:25:50 PM »
Dave,

The body number plate I believe is on the floor on the Driver's side.  I will take a picture and post it.  Flat stamped metal plate.

The medallion that 29 doUg posted is the build number.

Chet...

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General Discussion / Re: Data base of 28 to 30 Plymouth FEDCO numbers
« on: November 25, 2008, 02:23:15 AM »
The list I have is mostly 28's.  There are a few 29's, but nothing beyond that.  It is by no means complete for 28-30.  It does have Fedco numbers on it and I can check bt Fedco number to see if a specific car was catalogued in 1989.  At that time, the one I have was listed as fouth on the list of oldest survivors, but the owner that is listed was three owners before I got the car.

Dave,

Thanks for sending the list.  I have been snowed over with work from my day job so I still haven't had an opportunity to look it over.  I think it is a nice idea to have such a list available, maybe in the private section of this web but I will have to contact the POC and find out if they have a problem with making it public and also if they would share an updated list.  From a historic standpoint it might give some of us insight into who the previous owners of our cars were.

Tks, again.  Chet...

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General Discussion / Re: 1929 article
« on: November 23, 2008, 01:18:22 AM »

I have collected a couple of these over the years.  One of these days I will have to mount them all.  They would make an interesting conversation piece for a local car show or cruise in.

Chet…

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General Discussion / Re: My daddys truck
« on: November 23, 2008, 01:11:23 AM »
Hi Doug,

Nice truck, thanks for sharing.

Chet…

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General Discussion / Re: Decode my fedco No?
« on: November 12, 2008, 04:38:57 PM »
I believe the "G" is a prefix used for Canadian cars

In reality there are numbers out there that use letters not found in the FedCo table. For example, the serial numbers for the Windsor factory in 1929 are listed as “GP-583-W” through “GC-499-L” or “?1-583-0” through “?2-499-7” for the second production line at Windsor in 1929. 

Sorry but it seems that nothing with our cars is perfectly clear.  I think also that Dave is correct in that non-standard letters were indicators that the production in 1928 & 29 occurred at the Windsor Plant in Canada.

Chet...

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General Discussion / Re: Decode my fedco No?
« on: November 09, 2008, 10:17:30 PM »
Just for your info, there is only one "R" in the FEDCO translation.  The second "R" is a "D":

W P C H R Y S L E D
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Tks Dave I corrected my Post... :)

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General Discussion / Re: Decode my fedco No?
« on: November 09, 2008, 02:46:27 PM »
     W  P  C  H  R  Y  S  L  E   D
     0  1   2  3  4  5  6  7  8   9


Your car RY-170-C equates to  45-170-2   or   451,702

Your car was built in Detroit and I would guess around the first quarter of 1929.  March or before.


Chet...

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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 31, 2008, 09:38:31 PM »
Good idea, Chet. I've been a member of the POC since '91, didn't even think of posting it there.

My dad seems to think you could get the wheels either way-- painted or clear-coated. He had a '33 PD and knows his old cars, particularly Plymouths, but he doesn't remember for sure.

Hay Doug,

I don’t believe the POC’s 4 cylinder technical advisor is online with the forum but you should get a response from somebody or you could always check your newsletter for the phone number and call the guy directly.

I like your website I hope you do a lot of business.  I have tons of P15 and other parts lying around and one of these days I might clean up some for sale but then again someday I might need them.  Actually the biggest problem I have is finding the time to do anything.  Maybe if I retire.., but with the way the economy is going I will have to continue working 2 years after I kick the bucket just to break even.



Chet..


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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 31, 2008, 02:03:44 AM »
Doug,

I believe you are correct in that the wood spokes were painted.  As far as available colors I can’t help you.  I recently purchased an original Plymouth Salesmen’s reference for 1929 but unfortunately the page describing the wheel options was missing.  I would suggest posing that question on the Plymouth Owners Club forum.  You don’t have to be a member to join the forum and they would most likely have good information concerning originality since it is a core objective of the club. 

Jim,

Sorry I can’t help you with parts but if you find the hardware or a good facsimile please let us know.  It shouldn't be too hard.  Split rim wheels of the era were pretty similar.  Maybe Calimer’s Wheel Shop might be able to steer you in the right direction.

Calimer's Wheel Shop
30 East North St
Waynesboro, PA 17268

Phone-717-762-5056

Good Luck,

Chet…

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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 30, 2008, 03:13:34 PM »
Jim, From a post I made on the POC board a year or so ago.  Still haven't gotton around to giving it a try.

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I plan on providing a step by step description of what I will be doing including diagrams and pictures.  It costs somewhere in the $200 to $250 dollar bracket per wheel to have someone do this.  Most of the cost is labor so I think I can accomplish this for about $75 to $100 dollars per wheel.  Including the tools purchased.



I installed a spindle duplicating device on the wood lathe I purchased from another car buddy.  Cost $40 plus the duplicating device which was $150.  So I am into this at the moment for about $190 which is less then the cost for one wheel.

The wood is Kiln Dried Hickory and can be purchased form a couple of Pennsylvania wood shops cut to size and planed square.

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PS... with all the projects I am currently working on I think this will be a long time out, that is if I do it at all.

Chet…

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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 30, 2008, 02:57:20 PM »
Here is page 3 & 5

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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 30, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »
Here is page 1 & 2

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General Discussion / Re: wood spoke wheels
« on: October 30, 2008, 02:46:13 PM »
I have given this topic a lot of thought & research.  I have a spindle duplicator set up on my wood lath but have not gotten around to giving it a go.   Of course it is not recommended to replace some spokes but all should be done at the same time.  Once set into place the center hole for the hub is drilled slightly smaller and the hub is press fitted to the wheel.  Also the wood is kiln dried hickory.

Attached is an article about wood wheels. I don’t remember where I got it from, probably JimYergin.  The last page from this article and another article is attached to my next post

Also for about $200 to 250 per wheel you can use the link below for a professional replacement.

http://www.calimerswheelshop.com/index.html

Chet…

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General Discussion / Re: A Sunday Drive
« on: October 30, 2008, 02:59:33 AM »
Hay Dave,

I read an article recently which was commemorating the 100th. anniversary of the Model ‘T’.  The author brought out a point that none of us truly have experienced first hand.  Sure many of us have lived through the “See the USA in your Chevrolet” generation and paid 17 to 23 cents a gallon but none of us truly understand the real impact of the automobile on daily life in the early 1900’s.   The author proposed that the automobile gave people something that they didn’t have prior, and that was leisure time.   You might ask, how could this be with all the early maintenance that needed to be done to keep these cars road worthy.   Well when you think about it prior to the automobile you had a horse and possibly a wagon.   If you only used them to go to town once a week you still had to feed and care for your horse daily.  The car on the other hand only needed gas when you used it so thus a whole new era of leisure time was on the verge of creation.

The author proposes “Sadly, as with everything, when something slips from current events into history much of its significance becomes lost.  Since we don’t have a direct recollection of the times, we cannot (even with vivid imaginations) appreciate what a difference it made in people’s lives.”  The author is Jay Klehfoth  CEO of the Model ‘T’ Ford Club of America.

The article struck a cord with me in that I recall from my summer drives how people would react to my car and probably most would appreciate the age but all would walk away thinking how primitive those early cars were.  The reality is quite the opposite.  Our old cars are marvels of human ingenuity which have survived 80 years of wars, politics, hard economic times, the elements of nature and the rising price of gasoline.   

So Dave don’t hate garaging the old girl for the winter appreciate the fact that you don’t have to go out to the barn every day to feed and clean up after her.  Well maybe a few drops of oil on the floor but in the great scheme of things not bad at all.  I wonder what people will think of my laptop 80 years from now ?

Chet…

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