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General Discussion / Re: Pin type grease fittings
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:16:29 PM »

The pin type Grease Fittings ( I think manufactured by Alemite) used on the 29 Plymouth are also used on my 1948 Plymouth.  The rounded Zerk fittings came out in 1929 but it doesn’t seem that they were used in Plymouths until sometime in the 1950’s.  If you find out any more information on grease fittings I would be interested in the link.


PS… Grease fittings are commonly made from zinc-plated steel, stainless steel, or brass. 

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 25, 2010, 12:52:21 PM »
Plymouth Bulletin ...........Can someone tell me how to get ahold of past bulletins, are they avail on CD. The Dodge Brothers club has done this and so maybe Plymouth has as well, thanks

See link below.   1959 to 2007 all issues for $39.95.

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 21, 2010, 12:53:10 PM » <>..........This is coming back as an invalid e-mail address, is there a more current or updated, Havent heard anything back yet from the other address given for Earl.
Was there a picture of the toolkit he was selling and is either of the issues you mentioned still avail?

Yes there was a picture but it is very small. I will try to scan it over the weekend.  Sorry about the email addresses they came out of the December 2009 issue.  Not all that old ???

General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 20, 2010, 01:11:12 PM »
As an FYI…

The November/December 2009 issue of the Plymouth Bulletin had a gentleman selling a 31-32 PA PB Plymouth tool kit.  The parts that are listed were; wheel wrench, tappet wrench, 3-2 sided box wrenches, pliers, screwdriver, and hammer with canvas bag.  He also referenced a May/June 1985 issue of the Bulletin as a reference article on Plymouth tools.


General Discussion / Re: tool kits
« on: May 18, 2010, 06:53:50 PM »
I would try the Technical Advisors for the Plymouth Owners Club:

1928Q - Earl Button     email

1929U - Jeff C Button   email

Good Luck,  Chet...

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 26, 2010, 01:14:23 PM »
Please let us know what Egge says about your oil pump.

Regarding the dipstick and oil quantity, when I bought my 29 in 73, it had a dip stick from a latter model Plymouth that indicated 6 quarts.  I remarked it for four.


I must have the same dip stick that you have because I would have to add 2 additional quarts to reach the full line. 

Tks, Chet...

General Discussion / Re: 4Dr sill plates
« on: April 23, 2010, 02:58:41 PM »

Thanks Gary.., they look great.


General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 23, 2010, 12:41:56 AM »
The rear main oil return pipe, is it the same lenght as the one to the oil screen?  Is the rear one shorter ????    Does the bottom (inside) of your oil pan have a baffle and a "top plate".

Rusty it has been 2 years since I had the oil pan off and I really can't tell you much about the dimensions of the fill or return tube.  I believe the oil pan does have a baffle to trap slug.  Based on everything you have reported, bench testing of the pump and verification that the pump is turning in the engine the only possible reason you could not be pumping oil is that there must be an air leak between the pump and the oil.  The input tubing must be leaking somewhere.  

My 2 cents,   Chet...

PS...On a second thought the tubing could be clogged but I assume you have been all over this.  Maybe you could use some shop air down the fill tub and by closing the input end see if the air escapes anywhere else.  But you have probably been down this path also. 

This one is a puzzlement.

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 22, 2010, 12:12:49 AM »
Hi Rusty,

Just a ramble that probably has no barring on your problem but something that I have noticed with my car and I am not totally sure if it’s a problem or not.  When I first purchased my car I did my first oil change.  The Plymouth instruction booklet stated that the required engine oil content was 1 gallon.   After adding the required amount I noticed that my dipstick only registered to the half full point.  I didn’t want to over fill the oil pan so I assumed that maybe the dipstick was not the original stick.  When driving, if I was down a half a quart I would start to loose oil pressure.  So consequentially I started adding additional oil but still the oil level doesn’t come to the full mark.  I have since wondered if maybe I have a non stock oil pan that maybe required additional oil, but I have not yet figured out what the problem is or if there is a problem at all.  I was wondering if there is any adjustment on the oil input tubing that may be out of adjustment ??  I still don’t totally understand why my dipstick only registers half full with 1 gallon of oil in the pan ???

Just a ramble,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 21, 2010, 03:44:55 AM »

Have you tried a modern oil pressure gauge hook up?  Maybe your gauge is broken or the oil line to the gauge is clogged. ??


General Discussion / Re: photo request
« on: April 17, 2010, 10:08:58 PM »

The setup on the 29 might be a tad different then the 30U.  Unfortunately I can't send a picture currently my car and I are in two different states.  I could post one next weekend if no one else does.


General Discussion / Re: 4Dr sill plates
« on: April 17, 2010, 10:05:04 PM »
Could you post a picture once you get them installed.

Tks Chet...

General Discussion / Re: Exhaust hangers
« on: April 07, 2010, 03:57:19 PM »
I thought this Lube Chart taken from the 29 Instruction Booklet might be helpful.  When I bought my car the tail pipe was cut off just before the rear axle.  I bought a pipe setup, which was suppose to be for the 29 but it didn’t seem to go around the axle and sufficiently clear the gas tank.  Working with the owner of a local muffler shop we fabricated a bend that provides the exhaust at the rear of the passenger side wheel well.  (Not correct for the Plymouth but I believe like a Modal A)  The problem with the Lube Chart is that it doesn’t show the tail pipe extending past the gas tank rear top cover. ?  Oversight or reality I don’t know ?


General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: April 05, 2010, 01:46:39 AM »

I wouldn’t suspect the vacuum fuel pump.  Mine is hooked up for show only and while running the oil pump is just sucking air and has no negligible affect on the oil pressure.  With no spark plugs installed the oil pump should be able to pump up some pressure after a reasonably long crank.  Are you sure the pump gear is engaged and working properly. ?  If so you may have an air leak on the oil side or intake tubing.  If so even if the pump is working properly it would be easier to suck air then the heavy oil.

Just my thoughts,  Chet…

General Discussion / Re: oil pressure
« on: March 31, 2010, 12:42:30 AM »

I would check the oil pump by disconnecting the oil input line and cranking the engine for a short time with your finger over the input to the oil pump.  It should present some suction pressure.  If not you can remove the cover and put some grease around the exocentric chamber to produce a better seal.   Fire the engine up using some starter fluid and if the pressure doesn’t come right up shut her down and troubleshoot the pump.  I wouldn’t run her longer then 3 - 4 seconds to fill the input tube.  If the pressure doesn’t come right up something is wrong.   If this fails, squirt some oil into the cylinders to protect the rings and cylinder walls.  I said fire the engine up in that cranking might not be enough to bring the oil up the tube to the pump.

Another thing you could try is removing the spark plugs this way you can increase the cranking RPMs without straining the engine.   This may allow you to bring up some oil pressure.

You could always tighten the pressure relief valve a turn or three by screwing it into the engine so that any oil pressure developed would be applied to the engine parts rather then the oil pan but I wouldn’t expect this as a problem in that the spring should keep the valve closed even at the lightest setting.  

My 2 cents, doesn’t mean it is correct ?  Just what I would do.

My thoughts,  Chet…

PS,  You could remove the oil pump front cover and make sure the exocentric is turning.

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