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General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by frankp on March 10, 2018, 03:54:59 PM »
Ted, if you need haranguing, someone will oblige!  I like to think we're a lot less snarky than a few of the AACA folks.

Thursday my car came home.  Mixed blessing, now the convert has to sit out.  Hoping we have no more heavy snows, ha.

Definitely can have your car any way you choose.  Only limited by imagination - practicality, maybe?
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by racertb on March 10, 2018, 02:04:40 AM »
Well, I'm glad everyone took my comments as just comments and no one got upset...I was wondering if I was going to get "hammered" with replies :)

Anyway, regardless of which way you go Chet, I'm sure it's going to look great when done.  Whatever you are happy with is what matters most.
General Discussion / Re: Rear axle bearing
« Last post by Crazydave on March 09, 2018, 08:51:38 PM »
I have a question crazydave, what did you do for the shims?  Those look in bad shape.

I think I put them back in (didn't try and find replacements) Couldn't imagine how they would make much of a difference, they are extremely thin. And since I had no way to check depth I didn't get too concerned about. Maybe someone knows the proper method.

Sometimes I just stop and think, how would the owner have made the repair back in the 30's? Then assume I'm doing it as well or better  :)
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by chetbrz on March 08, 2018, 12:35:00 AM »
Frank I'm not strict about anything the way I figure it is basically Mind over Matter.  "if you don't mind, it don't matter".

I will tell Joe you sent your kind regards.  Most of the people I have met in the Delaware Valley Region believe that its your car so do what makes you happy.  Which to me makes sense because that 's what a hobby is all about.  The only caveat is.., if you want it judged these are the guidelines.  Doesn't seem unreasonable.

Basically I am not trying to build a perfect repro but more like a family heirloom.  If both conditions get met then its serendipity.  (an aptitude for making desirable discoveries by accident.)  I love that word, it describes my life.

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by frankp on March 07, 2018, 09:49:41 PM »

As you reiterate, who knows for sure, and they made running changes during assembly.  I have Depressed Beam headlamps; roadster has Two-Lite.  Does this mean along the way both the Two-Lite were replaced on the sedan?  Could be, but they looked pretty neglected when I got it.  Oh well, another deduction, if having it judged.

I met Joe at a summer meet in Grand Rapids, MN.  I'm glad to hear he's still around and, I hope, in good health.  He was very cordial and laid-back and gave me a few suggestions on what was right and needed correcting without being heavy handed. Please say hello for me, although he may not remember me.  With his car and Dave's as examples, you can't help but be correct.  In my old age I have shaded from strictly 100% original, e.g. upholstery.  The blue is as close as I could find to the original and the headliner is a complementary shade of blue.  I've seen the "original" light taupe headliner and didn't care for the way it looked, so...

Woodworker and metal fabricator - what exactly don't you do?!!

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by chetbrz on March 07, 2018, 06:41:56 PM »

Very perplexing issue our cars.

First in answer to Franks comments: 

Frank, I agree with getting the roof installed along with any metal work that needs to be fabricated like the top metal door frame pieces.  My original pieces are mostly painted rust.  No.., the wheels are a project in themselves.  Just ask Ted. What a great job he did.  My wheels will just have to wait, right now I have bigger fish to fry. 

As far as the ambiguity of our cars go I have to think Dave's car is my standard at this point.  I am a member of the Delaware Valley Region and one of the other members is a former POC president who owns an original 29 Plymouth 4 door sedan.  Really nice guy Joe Hernandez.  His car hasn't moved in awhile and he said that when the weather gets warmer we could dig it out of the garage so I can get my eyeballs on yet another example of a 29 Plymouth.

Below is a picture of my dash from a work effort I haven't posted yet.  In sanding and working on the dash I believe the Blue that is coming up is the same blue overspray I found on the remains of some original wood pieces.  Can I definitively say that someone else didn't paint this car Blue before it was repainted Red, maybe or maybe it is the original color.  Who can really say.  Below the blue was a very stubborn, porous & gummy black.  This is the same I found on the firewall.  Primer or topcoat ?

I think as time goes on being 100% correct is impossible but getting 85% right might be attainable.  The main and most important thing is to be 120% happy with what you have.  I will have to read over the POC judging guide. The jury is still out but if I am not convinced I will comply to general agreement unless something other than that makes me happy.

 :), Chet...
General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by frankp on March 07, 2018, 05:24:52 PM »
I, too, concur.  Earl didn't express the same hesitation with me and was very definitive.  Anyway, as he is the final arbiter for judging, I respected his knowledge (opinion) for how it was done and tried to follow.

Re: firewall color.  Here's Dave's car.  I have an old pic of my dash and will look for it.  Thought it was scanned in the past, but no.   frank

General Discussion / Re: 29 Build Thread - Part 2
« Last post by 29UJohn on March 07, 2018, 03:10:02 PM »

I agree with all you said.  There were very few of these cars produced in the first few years and documentation on those things is sketchy at best.

I once asked Earl Buton a pin stripe question. He basically told me that no one knows the details for certain on the early Plymouth’s.

All we can do is the best we can with what information and clues we have about our early Plymouth’s.

General Discussion / Re: Dot 5
« Last post by Rusty on March 07, 2018, 08:25:18 AM »
I guess I will stay with dot 3.  I never had luck with a one man bleeder..  I always use a teenager as the brake pedel pumper. :)
General Discussion / Re: Axle nut tight
« Last post by Rusty on March 07, 2018, 08:16:57 AM »
Ok.  Mine was just a tad tighter than finger tight. 
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