Author Topic: Data books  (Read 3998 times)

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 12:45:29 AM »
Thanks very much Chet, I believe that the thought of used cars did cross my mind at least once but it was dismissed due to all of them using the Chrysler Corp I.D at bottom of pamphlet and the sequence or I.D numbers that appear at the bottom of all period Chrysler corp issued literature.

In this particular case it would be D-2411.  

Thats not to say of course that these may be replacement manuals offered directly from Chrysler but that is probably not the case as replacement manuals were readily avail. from Chrysler for a long time after models were released.

Can you explain the meaning of this.......I would feel fairly sure these books are not from CO/C..........Somehow I am missing what CO/C is.

Maybe there is a way to pinpoint a time frame using the number located at bottom of literature, I will see if I can make out a pattern with some other dated material that I have.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 12:47:16 AM by 1930 »
Jason Anderson

chetbrz

  • POC MEMBER
  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1221
    • View Profile
    • My Space on the Web
Re: Data books
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 01:57:01 PM »
Hi Jason,

I haven't had a chance to follow up with Jim's contact Andy.  I to am confused with the term "CO/C".

As far as the used car's are concerned I was thinking of a large regional dealership that used these for used Chrysler Products not other cars.  Of course this is just a guess and has no research merit.  Jim is a published Plymouth historian and his friend Andy, who I don't know, he states that he has been collecting Chrysler documentation for a lifetime. (50 years)  I am not sure if they are convinced that these are Chrysler publications and might be old copies or reprints.  But the jury is still out and we learn new things every day.

I will try to get in contact with Andy and forward the pictures you posted.  Maybe he has seen something like these books over his years of collecting.  Unfortunately I have some things going on right now that are slowing me down a little but will be in touch soon.

Chet...
http://www.1948Plymouth.info           Web Master - Forum Administrator - AACA member

Old Man

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 185
  • Canadian
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 05:16:39 PM »
Any American publications that I have from Chrysler Corp. have a 'D' number at the bottom of the front cover. Any Canadian ones have a 'WM' number.  
 Had an epiphany. Would 'D' stand for Detroit and 'WM' stand for Windsor Manufacture?  
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 11:16:05 PM by Old Man »

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2013, 01:14:46 AM »
Hi Jason,

I haven't had a chance to follow up with Jim's contact Andy.  I to am confused with the term "CO/C".

As far as the used car's are concerned I was thinking of a large regional dealership that used these for used Chrysler Products not other cars.  Of course this is just a guess and has no research merit.  Jim is a published Plymouth historian and his friend Andy, who I don't know, he states that he has been collecting Chrysler documentation for a lifetime. (50 years)  I am not sure if they are convinced that these are Chrysler publications and might be old copies or reprints.  But the jury is still out and we learn new things every day.

I will try to get in contact with Andy and forward the pictures you posted.  Maybe he has seen something like these books over his years of collecting.  Unfortunately I have some things going on right now that are slowing me down a little but will be in touch soon.

Chet...

No rush, I appreciate your effort, this may sound a little crazy and hopefully it will not offend Jim but I seem to remember him telling me maybe a couple of years ( at most ) ago whilst I was re-searching something else that as far as he knew there was never a Plymouth parts book printed here in the U.S until sometime in the 30s.

I thought that maybe he was mistaken and I showed him a copy of a 29 Plymouth parts manual that I had dug up. I stood corrected as he re-iterated that no such thing as a U.S parts manual and the one I was showing him was a Canadian. ( Again I may be waay off here on all of this, I have alot going on as well and it is difficult to remember everything that is mentioned to me )

Anyway I went digging for something else today ( Dodge related ) and I came across a Plymouth parts list first edition June 1928 affective with serial # HL950P

Maybe this could be of interest to someone, not interested in selling it but am more than anxious to help someone that might glean info from it. Might be you will tell me these are common and we can forget this post ever existed but if this is maybe something of interest to anyone here or Jim maybe you could pass along the invite to ask for further information concerning this copy I have found.

Thanks again
Jason Anderson

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2013, 01:17:12 AM »
Any American publications that I have from Chrysler Corp. have a 'D' number at the bottom of the front cover. Any Canadian ones have a 'WM' number.  
 Had an epiphany. Would 'D' stand for Detroit and 'WM' stand for Windsor Manufacture?  
D for Detroit makes sense. I did not think of that. I am going to look into these numbers more, look for a possible pattern, just have to find the time. Thanks
Jason Anderson

chetbrz

  • POC MEMBER
  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1221
    • View Profile
    • My Space on the Web
Re: Data books
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2013, 04:18:13 AM »

Maybe this could be of interest to someone, not interested in selling it but am more than anxious to help someone that might glean info from it. Might be you will tell me these are common and we can forget this post ever existed but if this is maybe something of interest to anyone here or Jim maybe you could pass along the invite to ask for further information concerning this copy I have found.

Thanks again

Hi Jason,

I am learning all the time and try to post as much information as possible to help others as pay back for the many people who have helped me over the years.  I just wish I had more time to do more work to this site.  If you have info that you think should go in the tech area let me know and we could get it posted.

Chet...
http://www.1948Plymouth.info           Web Master - Forum Administrator - AACA member

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2013, 10:13:20 AM »

Maybe this could be of interest to someone, not interested in selling it but am more than anxious to help someone that might glean info from it. Might be you will tell me these are common and we can forget this post ever existed but if this is maybe something of interest to anyone here or Jim maybe you could pass along the invite to ask for further information concerning this copy I have found.

Thanks again

Hi Jason,

I am learning all the time and try to post as much information as possible to help others as pay back for the many people who have helped me over the years.  I just wish I had more time to do more work to this site.  If you have info that you think should go in the tech area let me know and we could get it posted.

Chet...

Thanks for your effort, I will e-mail Jim ( maybe, if I do indeed have his e-mail address ) and get his take on the parts book.

EDIT: I did e-mail Jim and sent this e-mail.....Hello Jim, I hope things are well, I may be mistaken but I thought you had mentioned too me at one time  that as far as you knew there was never a Plymouth parts book printed here in the U.S until sometime in the 30s.

This was on a Plymouth forum but I do not know which it was.

Just to jog your memory..........

I thought that maybe you were mistaken and I showed you a copy of a 29 Plymouth parts manual that I had dug up. I stood corrected as you re-iterated that no such thing as a U.S parts manual and the one I was showing was a Canadian. ( I may be waay off here on all of this, I have alot going on and it is difficult to remember everything that is mentioned to me )

Anyway I went looking for something else today ( Dodge related ) and I came across a Plymouth parts list first edition June 1928 affective with serial # HL950P

Is this of interest, maybe un-common. I would just like to clarify what was said too me by yourself in the past and find out if scans of the book would help solve some mysteries for Plymouth owners. Thanks


I will let you know his response
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 10:30:52 AM by 1930 »
Jason Anderson

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2013, 12:17:23 AM »
Jim did get back with me and this was his response.............Morning Jason -
 
I may have mis-spoken about a parts book - it was the service manual that wasn't issued until 1934, the owners manual generally serving in the "service manual" capacity prior to that.
 
There was a master parts book covering models back to 1928 (that book has been reproduced).  I can't say that I've ever seen a parts book other than the master book for 1932 and earlier.  The parts book you mention begining with serial number HL950P would be for the first Plymouth built.
 
Yes, the book would be most helpful....in fact I am in correspondence with a club member right now that needs to know the make/model number of the starter for a 1929 U model.  His starter has gone to pieces and he's looking for the correct parts/numbers to try to locate the end plate that he needs.
 
How many pages are there to this parts book?  Is is possible to get copies of the book, etc.  
 
Jim B.  

................................I can and will post copies of the manual here if there is an interest, its no biggie as I plan to scan and copy it for him anyway. Its up to you guys, would you like a copy yourselves?
Jason Anderson

Gary 30U

  • POC MEMBER
  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 290
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2013, 10:54:04 PM »
YES, I would love to have a copy of the book. I have tried to gather as much information as I can about the 4 cyl PLymouths.

Gary R. - Happy Motoring

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2013, 11:07:51 PM »
YES, I would love to have a copy of the book. I have tried to gather as much information as I can about the 4 cyl PLymouths.

Gary R. - Happy Motoring

I will forward the e-mail I sent Jim as its just a couple of clicks of the button that way, send me an e-mail at jhason2@yahoo.com
Jason Anderson

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2013, 12:56:17 AM »
frankp



I have tried e-mailing you the scans, keeps coming back as un-deliverable, do you have a different e-mail address ?
Jason Anderson

frankp

  • POC MEMBER
  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
  • 29U 4dr Sedan #Y089WE
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2013, 05:40:44 AM »
Jason,  puzzling, I don't have another address.  I received your 1st email with 15 files attached and your 2nd asking if 48 pages were received.  Did you get my reply?    frank
frank p

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2013, 02:28:25 AM »
I just now sent the other 30 pages, I split them up, I have no errors this time so I will assume that you received them.
Jason Anderson

1930

  • Senior Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 174
    • View Profile
Re: Data books
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2013, 02:31:13 AM »
Are there any 34 Plymouth owners on here that would give me a scan/copy of the front cover of their instruction book?
Jason Anderson