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General Discussion / Re: Something interesting From the Past
« Last post by chetbrz on May 25, 2020, 02:15:48 PM »
Interesting Frank.

For anyone interested below is a link to Hagley Museum info on Fabrikoid..

https://www.hagley.org/ja/about-us/news/museum-fabrikoid-game-changer
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General Discussion / Re: Help with Interior Details
« Last post by chetbrz on May 23, 2020, 04:23:22 PM »
Thanks for the input.  I was going to leave off the pockets but the wife is working on a proof of concept.  This is very tedious work but moving along.  Learning and refining the process on the fly.  Hopefully for the last time on this car anyway.

Chet...
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General Discussion / Re: Help with Interior Details
« Last post by frankp on May 23, 2020, 03:32:41 PM »
Looks like the picture in the Instruction Book for the '29U.
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General Discussion / Re: Help with Interior Details
« Last post by ehenin on May 23, 2020, 01:45:52 PM »
This interior is from a 1933 book.  It is the clearest one I have seen. I like the mat detail.
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General Discussion / Re: Something interesting From the Past
« Last post by frankp on May 23, 2020, 02:02:46 AM »
Interesting Chet.  More info for artificial leather see hagley dot org  re fabrikoid.  It is a du Pont product patented in 1915 and used in book bindings, upholstery and car tops. It appears it wasn't petroleum based like I thought, but nitrocellulose.  As you, I enjoy the search, but gave up looking for equivalency of leatherette and fabrikoid.
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General Discussion / Re: Something interesting From the Past
« Last post by chetbrz on May 22, 2020, 11:53:06 PM »
Did some quick research about leatherette and found out some interesting info.  (If you believe the internet)

One of the earliest forms of leatherette was Presstoff. Invented in 19th century Germany.  Presstoff was artificial leather used during the first half of the 20th century. Made of specially layered and treated paper pulp, Presstoff was durable and easily adapted to be used in place of leather, which under wartime conditions was rationed. First invented in the 19th century, it gained its widest use in Germany during the Second World War.

Searching further I found the next improvement on Presstoff was DuPont's Corfam, introduced in 1963 at the Chicago Shoe Show. Corfam was the centerpiece of the DuPont pavilion at the 1964 New York World's Fair in New York City. After spending millions of dollars marketing the product to shoe manufacturers, DuPont withdrew Corfam from the market in 1971 and sold the rights to a company in Poland.

I couldnít find a first time use of leatherette in automobiles but I would suspect it started working its way into the auto market after WW2.
This could make sense as RTF mentioned maybe this wasnít the first covering of my seats but the first restoration of the car which may have been in the 40ís or 50ís.  The seat materials now are probably from the 70ís or 80ís.  Who knows.., but if original it was most likely leather.  Thanks to this discussion I am not sure of anything.  I donít think if it was imitation leather it could not have survived all those years.

Anyway like Frank said, leather was probably less expensive or possibly the same price as leatherette.  So why use it, no distinct advantage.
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General Discussion / Re: Something interesting From the Past
« Last post by frankp on May 22, 2020, 07:22:06 PM »
Since leatherette is synthetic, it could have been more expensive than cow hide, back in the day.  I understand leatherette covered the rumble seats, but not positive.
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General Discussion / Re: What was used between Running Board Trim ?
« Last post by frankp on May 22, 2020, 07:15:14 PM »
It appears I have cork there, but don't remember if that was there originally.  Seems odd it wouldn't be the beaded welt too.  Must have been a reason I used cork.
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General Discussion / Re: What was used between Running Board Trim ?
« Last post by Articifer Tom on May 22, 2020, 07:09:55 PM »
On my type '31-'32 trim was told all three sides same . It looks like from remnants it was riveted to trim and maybe thur to board edge .
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General Discussion / Re: Something interesting From the Past
« Last post by chetbrz on May 22, 2020, 06:36:49 PM »

I can't swear that my old seat was leatherette.., maybe it could be leather.  Since leatherette simulated leather is there any way to determine which is which.  What would have happen to leather after 91 years.  Maybe its leather I just thought that since it was a low priced car I figured leather was more expensive than the imitation (leatherette) ?
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