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complete brake system cost
« on: October 18, 2009, 12:01:30 PM »
All my shoes were heavy coated with brake fuild and some with wheel bearing grease.  I rebuild everything.  This is what it cost.

Master clyinder.   This was not resleeved.  The bore was not that bad, some rust but rebuildable.  
                         Rabestos number MK-1     is the kit number  27 bucks.

Wheel clyinder      All 4 were heavy rust and pitted.  Roberts has them for about 45-50 bucks but I had
                         mine all resleeved in stainless for 60 each.  Since I needed the shoes to be relined, this
                         was a lot easier and they are now done forever.  4x60= 240

Wheel clyinder kits.   Now they need to be rebuilt.   rabestos number Wk-7  is a step bore rebuild kit for
                             later mopar.  This kit has 1 1/4 and  1 1/8 cups.   It does have a new spring and
                             outter rubber cups.  You can buy a 1 1/4 rubber cup seperately.  cost 4 each

Powder coating.        I hate a rusty master clyinder so I powder coated mine shiny black.  The brake place
                             had stated that if you are going to powder coat and sleeve that the part should be
                             coated firsted then sleeve as the high heat could loosen the sleeve.  I have a home
                             eastman powder coating system so no extra coat here.

Brake drums.            All 4 were removed from the wood spoke hubs to be cleaned.  It looked a lot easier
                             to clean them off the hubs.  Once degreased, I bead blasted them and then got a
                             good look at what I have.  All were nice smooth surface and only one (rear) was
                             very rough brake surface.  I showed them to my local machine shop and the final
                             decistion was to just use them and not cut them.  The drums then got powder
                             coated black.

Grease seals.            Front ones were leaking and rear ones were missing part of the leather seal
                              front  SKF 18242  5 bucks each
                              rear   38 dollars each from then-n-now auto  in Weymouth, Mass 1-781-335-8860

Wheel bearings          These looked like no rust or pits so they were reused.

Brake hoses.             My local parts place states they have ordered the replacement hoses but were
                              shipped to the wrong store.  Should be here "soon".  I will post there part number
                              here if they turn out to be correct.

Copper washer.         If you type in copper washer on ebay, there is about 50 people selling a box of 110
                              of new copper washers.  I got one and replaced all the copper washers to be safe.

King pins                  Shot and needed new ones,  110 dollars and 50 for the machine shop to install.

Hard lines.                These seem ok to me and I just used air to blow them out and resue them.  I did\
                              remove the master cylinder to resivour and bead blast it to get a nice copper color
                              back and sprayed on a clear coat to keep the copper color.

Rear hub.                 You need a hub puller to remove the rear wheel.  Coast 110 dollars and was used
                              for 30 seconds per side.  What is needed is a FORD model TT hub puller.  The model
                              T puller is to small but the model T truck was called the Model TT.  Any model T
                              parts place on the internet will have one.  

Time                        About 5 weeks to get all the parts done.  It took a week or so to sent off the
                              brake shoes to be relined etc.    Once all the parts were back, it was easy to
                              reinstall.  I was nice to have all nice clean threads and not any oily parts.



                              I used the following
                              Brake and equipment warehouse
                              455 Harrison ST. N.E.
                              Minneapolis  MN  55413
                              612 378 3141
                              800 233 4053

shoes relined             I had all the shoes relined.  It cost 10 dollars per shoe 8x10=80 and then add shipping. 
                              They had new lining glued on. 


Hope this helps

rusty
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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 11:35:45 AM »
Rusty,

Good info, thanks for the breakdown, pardon the pun. 

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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 01:37:51 PM »
Brake and Equipment is the greatest. I drove down there one day and they custom made all my brake hoses in five minutes while I watched. $25 a pop.

We matched up the old wheel cylinders with new Raybestos units for $35 a piece.

They fabricate parts and ship all over the world for anything from Renault Dauphines to Duesenbergs, they are that reknowned.

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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 05:37:10 PM »
brake hoses (newly made) are from 
www.brakehoses.biz  for 75 dollars.  All three brakes hoses are the same


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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 10:33:58 PM »
 I bought mine from this man here he is oversize and does a wounderful job and the are a third of the price of american sold hoses.  You can ask him to put ones on ebay for 29 plymouth and he will do so or just sell them to you mabey 21.95 for set of three and shipping is real cheap. worth checking out I was  very happy and have them on the car now.  Good luck craig

this is the seller and go to ebay and pull up this number in the Ebay search and he will come up
kaiserlyon ( 975)  99.6%
 


Item number: 320433009739
 

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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 09:06:27 PM »
I forgot one part, the praking brake.  Mine had been used for a long while as the primary braking system and was worn clean off.  I had it relined by the same people who did my brake shoes  50 dollars.  I cleaned all the drum and parts of the handle , bead blasted and powder coated them,


The next part is not needed but very handy.  The ammco 1750 brake gauge.  I got a complete set off ebay for 400 bucks, some are list at 1000 for buy it now.  Do get a complete kit with intructions.  You can set the brakes without this but it does really work to make a tight brake job.  I have other cars that I can use it on so it is now just a plymouth tool.  I tried without it and I got it good enough but not great.

I just now need to remove the master clyinder storage can and bead blast and clear coat that and then the brakes are done.

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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 01:13:41 AM »
TO 29 doUg: Do you have the part number on the Raybestos wheel cylinders that you mentioned above? Thanks - Rich
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Re: complete brake system cost
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 09:46:58 AM »
I do not have a new clyinder  number just the kit
WK-7
The clyinder is 1 1/4 size on both sides but this kit only does one side as it also does 1 1/8 on the other suzew (step bore)  I have to buy 1 1/4 cup along with this kit.  I had my cylinders relined with stainless. rusty