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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2017, 06:19:56 PM »
Chet I am finishing a very long project that is coach built like your 29 Plymouth. After looking back on it I would not have tried so desperately  to follow the exact contour of the different pieces of wood. It finally occurred to me that I could have built my own vehicle as long as the metal sheets fit in place. And I could have built it much quicker. I finally started using heavy duty Permatex clear RTV to glue the metal sheets in place. Those guys 80 odd years ago had a lot more skill and patience than I do. A lot more.  It's going together fine and yes I did use some small nails to position the steel. Nobody will every know (except you guys) that I resorted to 21st century technology. I also used carpenter's water proof glue Ina lot of places even though there was no evidence of any being originally. I think we over think the originality of the construction of these vehicles don't use the more modern methods and materials available to us . if I was to do this vehicle over again I could lop off several years I'm sure. Just my 2cents. Been there,done that.

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« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2017, 06:36:52 PM »
Your detailed drawings will be a big help to the next guy to tackle this job!
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2017, 07:59:34 PM »
Thank you all for the kind words.  Your interest keeps me focused and honest.

John,  If someone could benefit from what I am doing that would be great. I know I have learned a lot from what others have done.

Old Man,  Nice to hear from you its been awhile.  You always bring a different perspective to any discussion.  I am sure whatever you are working on is coming out just fine.  I sometimes complain about the work that the last guy who owned my car did;  but in reality if all its previous owners left it to rust my old car wouldn't exist.  So hopefully many years from now when someone else works on this car maybe the new owner might express a few kind words about the old guy in 2017 that did the restoration work.  That would be really cool because in 2117 they might be retrofitting the old Plymouth with a new electric power plant that looks like the old 4 banger.  Probably be powered by a laptop battery.  Oh well that's a stretch.

 
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2017, 02:58:05 PM »
UPDATE:

Old Man's words of wisdom are exactly correct.  I am trying to stay as close as possible to the original construction of the Plymouth frame but have to work with the tools and information I have at hand.   Obviously working without formal templates, drawings, or special tools; I try to construct as close as possible to the engineering intent and not the exact construction methods used in the period the car was built.

As I peel back the onion on this car the task is as daunting as ever but we are taking it one step at a time.  Hopefully the end product will be worth it.  As the Old Man said what you can't see is between us...

See the link below for the update just to much to post directly:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/02202017.htm



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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2017, 10:45:10 PM »
What wood working tools did you use? 

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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2017, 08:55:38 AM »
What wood working tools did you use?

Rusty,

Nothing fancy, also standard hand operated power tools, jig saw, router, and a drill press not shown below.

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #66 on: February 23, 2017, 05:40:42 PM »
New Hinge Pillar Installation

This will be my last update for a while.  Everything I have done to date to the driver's side of my car I will be reversing and doing to the passenger side.  Since the methods are the same I don't see any reason to post the blow by blow description.  Will start posting again once I reach a point of new work.  Please see the link below.., just to much to post in this thread.

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/02232017.htm



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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2017, 11:21:42 AM »
Since the board has been so quite I will post another update.  The cold weather that has rolled into the neighborhood has put the brakes on my wood working project.  See the link below for my progress to date.

Passenger Sill and Rear Cross Sill 

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/03152017.htm



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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2017, 09:52:30 PM »
Nice work, Chet.
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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2017, 07:10:42 PM »
Yes...really nice.

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »
Passenger Side Hinge Pillar

With the complicated work of creating the left & right side sill plates and also the rear cross sill behind me.  I completed the construction of the passenger side hinge pillar.  Basically I reversed everything I did to the driver's side and applied it to the passenger side.



Once all the wood was positioned properly I squared off the rear body assembly.  Using dimensions I calculated and verified with actual measurements from forum member <29UJohn> who also has a 1929 Plymouth 4 door sedan.  I bolted everything down.

The strength of this rear section is now comparable to a newly constructed car.   I will move on to new work like  rebuilding the rear seat frame assembly and rear window frame which will add even more strength to the rear section of my old car.



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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2017, 10:42:47 PM »
Looking good, Chet!
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2017, 11:32:36 AM »
Rear Frame & Lower Window Assembly

I posted a link below to the blow by blow description.

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/05142017.htm

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2017, 12:01:24 AM »
Was the orginial wood stained?

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« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2017, 07:39:24 AM »
Was the orginial wood stained?

Rusty, I couldnít say for sure whether or not my car's original wood was treated with stain or anything else.   I have seen other more unmolested versions of the 28/29 roof assembly and it didnít appear that the roof structure was treated with anything except normal weathering.  All I can say about my car is that the body structure wood that was original to my car was blackened quite possibly by age.  Drilling into the old wood also produced darkened wood particles.   Not quite as dark but dark.  Age and a great deal of moisture might account for the blackened color (mold).  I really couldn't say. ?

PS... Take a look at Dave's resto thread.  His roof wood pictures show a mixed bag including body color, dark wood, and weathering. 
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