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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2017, 03:33:25 AM »
My roof wood looked dark, but I think it was age.  If I had to guess, not stained or painted. 

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #76 on: May 18, 2017, 09:09:15 PM »
Was the orginial wood stained?

Rusty,

Since you first asked this question I have been thinking more on the subject.  I started today working on the rear window frame pieces and kept thinking about your question.  I believe the internal wood frame members were originally stained with a dark to black stain or light flat paint.  See pictures below to corroborate what I just stated.  These upper rear window frame pieces were original to the car.  The color of the wood facing the metal skins is the same as the wood facing the interior of the car.



The inside joint shows lighter wood than the exterior surface and on the piece to the right the original color of my car which was Meridian Blue.



I don't think it was age that colored the wood.  I think it was originally painted or stained.
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #77 on: May 19, 2017, 05:16:03 AM »
It sure looks that way.  Was the inside body metal painted or just primed?  Could the interior be painted black primer? Everything was painted, wood and metal.  My car has a new interior but untouched mechanics.

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2017, 02:21:50 PM »
I agree with Chet. The interior wood on my 29 appears to be stained a dark reddish- brown.  Not that anyone will see it when it is completed.
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2017, 11:25:08 PM »
It sure looks that way.  Was the inside body metal painted or just primed?  Could the interior be painted black primer? Everything was painted, wood and metal.  My car has a new interior but untouched mechanics.

Rusty,

The untouched rear internal section of my car's metal skin was rusted.  I would assume that when manufactured something was painted on the metal to help protect it from rust.  Below is a picture before I started my work.



PS... I didn't worry about matching colors of paint and stain.  Like John said.., nobody will ever see the work I am doing to the wood framing once the interior is reinstalled.  I am however trying to duplicate the framing as close as possible to the original, without the assistance of the original technical drawings.
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #80 on: June 02, 2017, 09:02:08 PM »
Rear Window Frame & Upper Cross Member

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/06022017.htm

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #81 on: June 02, 2017, 11:21:46 PM »
Chet - this looks great...I checked out the link too...nice work.

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2017, 01:42:31 AM »
Chet - this looks great...I checked out the link too...nice work.

Thanks Ted,

I hope you are enjoying your cars, the weather here finally hit a homerun today.  Melissa & I took the 48 out for a ride and wound up at a local car show.  We checked out the cars, had some lunch, and than continued on our drive.  Unfortunately after about 3 hours at a car show I start to get antsy so back on the road.  We did about 120 miles and ended up in an outdoor restaurant on the water near the beach.  A good day by all standards.
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2017, 10:32:24 PM »
Any day these old cars run and make it home safely is a good day!  ;)

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2017, 02:29:54 AM »
The Cowl Frame Assembly

With the rear frame section completed, I moved my attention to the Cowl Assembly.  Once this section is completed I will be able to hang my doors and position the center door column supports.   Once all this work is completed I will be able to start work on the roof members.

I started by striping the Cowl down to the frame pieces or in my case what's left of the original frame.  I removed the dash and the upper window metal which included the metal front door hinge pillars and windshield.  I also removed all the component parts from the dash.

The picture below is a view of the back side of my dash.  I believe the blue paint is the original body color of my car.  So I am assuming that the area of the dash behind the front windshield was painted the same as the Plymouth body color.



It appears that the Cowl consists of three wood members.  The center dash and windshield support and the left and right side front door hinge pillars.



The only original wood left was the center windshield support.  I will be able to use this piece by joining new wood to the left and right sides.  I will be able to use the metal hinge plates to fabricate the wood hinge pillars.  So the cowl is basically three wood members joined together with the rigid metal supports.  The good news is, I have all the original metal supports.

I would be interested in any pictures of this area showing the wood members, the hinge pillar, and the windshield.


Thanks,  Chet...  PS.. I have the lift assembly for the front windshield.


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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2017, 09:53:15 PM »
Cowl Frame continued

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/07092017.htm

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #86 on: July 10, 2017, 12:30:13 AM »
Chet, Fantastic work!!
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2017, 11:25:21 PM »
Master craftsman!

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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2017, 03:28:23 AM »

Thanks Frank & Ted,

but I think you should hold back any praise until I hang the doors.  That will be the proof  in the pudding.  I've got my fingers crossed.

Chet...
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Re: 29 Build Thread
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2017, 02:27:31 PM »
Cowl Frame Continued - The Dash

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2017/07232017.htm

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